From: Cecelala on
Thank you very much for your help. I have been told about the CCleaner a few
times. I guess now is a good time to use it. Is there anything that I
should be aware of or do before using it?

Cecelala

"Chet" wrote:

> On 2/5/2010 7:51 PM, Cecelala wrote:
> > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
> > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:\ w/465
> > GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
> > Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro 5.1.2600
> > TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
> > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
> > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
> > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
> > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
> >
> > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
> > Publisher SW??
> > Low Reg. Space
> >
> > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
> >
> > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
> >
> > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
> > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:\??
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Cecelala
>
> You may want to try CCleaner (it's free)
> <http://www.ccleaner.com/>
>
> It will remove the old hotfix installation files that are removable. But
> remember, once you remove them you won't be able to uninstall that update.
>
> You can also cleanup many other caches, temps etc. as well. As to the
> registry cleaner portion CCleaner, use at your own risk. If you read
> these groups very often you know there's not much to be gained by
> cleaning the registry.
>
> hth
> --
> Chet <chesterefSPAM(a)NOThotmail.com>
> .
>
From: Cecelala on
Thank you for your help as well. I always get nervous when it comes to doing
anything with the registry files. I definitely will not touch those or
delete.

Cecelala

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:00:08 -0600, Chet
> <chesterefSPAM(a)NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > You may want to try CCleaner (it's free)
> > <http://www.ccleaner.com/>
> >
> > It will remove the old hotfix installation files that are removable. But
> > remember, once you remove them you won't be able to uninstall that update.
> >
> > You can also cleanup many other caches, temps etc. as well. As to the
> > registry cleaner portion CCleaner, use at your own risk. If you read
> > these groups very often you know there's not much to be gained by
> > cleaning the registry.
>
>
> I'll second your recommendation of CCleaner, as long as its registry
> cleaning function isn't used. Registry cleaner should not be used
> because they are dangerous, not just that there's not much to be
> gained.
>
> Here's my standard post on registry cleaners:
>
> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
>
> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
> it may have.
>
> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
>
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> .
>
From: Cecelala on
Thank you so very much for such detail. Always appreciate that!! You have
given me a lot to do...can't wait to get it done! And yes, it is for a
business (not mine) and is actually used for surveillance. I haven't looked
too deep into the system to find out how much video is actually stored in the
files and don't know where or what the other 'stuff' might be but will have
to explore. I will definitely take all of your advise. Also, I did do the
Disk Cleanup but there wasn't much in there to delete. Can I safely delete
'Temp. Install files'?

Thanks again for all your wonderful assistance.

Cecelala

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Cecelala wrote:
> > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
> > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a
> > C:\ w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the
> > usage has gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available.
> > Running XP Pro 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
> > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
> > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
> > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
> > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
> >
> > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
> > Publisher SW??
> > Low Reg. Space
> >
> > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
> >
> > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
> >
> > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can
> > delete old files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space
> > on the C:\??
>
> If that much space has been used - it is *your* stuff. ;-)
>
> Video Surveillance - really? I would think you know where the space has
> gone. ;-)
>
> If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
> uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
> ( Particularly of interest here - #4 )
> ( Alternative: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm )
>
> You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
> latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
>
> How to use Disk Cleanup
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
>
> When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
> memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
> file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
> don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
> uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:
>
> - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
> Control Panel, and click Power Options).
> - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
> click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
> "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
> hiberfil.sys file.
> - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
> tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
>
> You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
>
> 1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the System Restore tab.
> 3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
> the "Settings" button.
> 4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
> the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
> 5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
>
> You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...
>
> Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
> size between 64MB and 128MB..
>
> - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
> - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
> - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
> following:
> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
> something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
> now.)
> - Click OK.
> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
> (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
> minutes or more.)
> - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
> Explorer.
>
> You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
> temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
>
> Ccleaner (Free!)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> Other ways to free up space..
>
> JDiskReport
> http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
>
> SequoiaView
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.
>
> In the end - a standard Windows XP installation with all sorts of extras
> will not likely be above about 4.5GB to 9GB in size. If you have more space
> than that (likely do on a modern machine) and most of it seems to be used -
> likely you need to move *your stuff* off and/or find a better way to manage
> it.
>
> Reboot and logon as administrative user.
>
> You should now perform a full Defragment on your system drive (C:)...
>
> How to Defragment your hard drives
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
> * will take time
>
> BTW - memory (the error message you got) and hard disk space are two
> different things - although they can be related and cause problems with one
> or the other. ;-)
>
> The error seems to point towards video capture software - so I say/imply
> again - your video surveillance will take up HUGE amounts of space.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
> .
>
From: Cecelala on
Thank you for your help. I am never quite sure about the uninstall files.
There are A LOT of them. They go so far back that I thought it might be good
to clean out some if not all of them. Everyone is very very helpful...I
really really appreciate it. I am so glad this is available to the average
person (me).

Thanks again
Cecelala

"Daave" wrote:

> Cecelala wrote:
> > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
> > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a
> > C:\ w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the
> > usage has gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available.
> > Running XP Pro 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
> > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
> > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
> > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
> > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
> >
> > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
> > Publisher SW??
> > Low Reg. Space
> >
> > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
> >
> > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
> >
> > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete
> > old files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the
> > C:\??
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Cecelala
>
> Something tells me that most of your hard drive is filled up with video
> files. Although Shenan offered excellent suggestions to trim down, I
> think you really need to figure out what to do with your actual data.
> That is, if you are successful in freeing up a few GB, it still won't be
> enough. Realistically, you want 100GB of free space (for a drive your
> size) for adequate breathing room.
>
> My advice is to purchase another hard drive to store your data on.
> Simply copy your data (presumably video files). Once they are safely
> copied, you may delete the original files on the PC's congested hard
> drive. Then follow all of Shenan's advice. Once you are finished
> deleting, *then* you can defrag (many make the mistake of defragging
> first!).
>
> BTW, I would rather you keep the uninstall files. In the overall scheme
> of things, they don't take up that much space. But if this is something
> you really want to do, the link Shenan gave should be helpful:
>
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>
>
> .
>
From: Cecelala on
Thank you for your help. I was trying to figure out if it meant something
other than the CD-ROM. I'm not sure so need to check it out.

Cecelala

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> See http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827
>
> PS: What's your CD-ROM got to do with it?
>
>
> Cecelala wrote:
> > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
> > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:\
> > w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has
> > gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro
> > 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
> > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
> > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
> > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
> > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
> >
> > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
> > Publisher SW??
> > Low Reg. Space
> >
> > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
> >
> > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
> >
> > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
> > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:\??
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Cecelala
> .
>