From: Mark on
For standard QPSK, the I and Q channels are (conceptually speaking)
displayed as XY on a scope and the scope beam is turned on at the
symbol instant. Ideally the combination of I and Q will be at one of
the 4 corner symbol locations during the symbol time. The scope beam
can also be turned on dimly during the trajectory between symbol
times....so far so good.

Now for OQPSK, the I and Q symbols are staggered in time. So when the
I channel is at its symbol value, the Q channel is in transition.
The two channels are never both at the symbol value at the same
time. So how does one create a constellation display for OQPSK
showing the 4 symbol points?

Does it require a 1/2 symbol delay to one channel?

thanks

Mark



From: Tim Wescott on
On 06/23/2010 09:39 AM, Mark wrote:
> For standard QPSK, the I and Q channels are (conceptually speaking)
> displayed as XY on a scope and the scope beam is turned on at the
> symbol instant. Ideally the combination of I and Q will be at one of
> the 4 corner symbol locations during the symbol time. The scope beam
> can also be turned on dimly during the trajectory between symbol
> times....so far so good.
>
> Now for OQPSK, the I and Q symbols are staggered in time. So when the
> I channel is at its symbol value, the Q channel is in transition.
> The two channels are never both at the symbol value at the same
> time. So how does one create a constellation display for OQPSK
> showing the 4 symbol points?
>
> Does it require a 1/2 symbol delay to one channel?

One would certainly assume so.

I've always done this in digital-land, so I just show a scatter plot of
the values of the channels at the sampling instants, which automagically
takes care of the delay.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com
From: Eric Jacobsen on
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT), Mark <makolber(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>For standard QPSK, the I and Q channels are (conceptually speaking)
>displayed as XY on a scope and the scope beam is turned on at the
>symbol instant. Ideally the combination of I and Q will be at one of
>the 4 corner symbol locations during the symbol time. The scope beam
>can also be turned on dimly during the trajectory between symbol
>times....so far so good.
>
>Now for OQPSK, the I and Q symbols are staggered in time. So when the
>I channel is at its symbol value, the Q channel is in transition.
>The two channels are never both at the symbol value at the same
>time. So how does one create a constellation display for OQPSK
>showing the 4 symbol points?
>
>Does it require a 1/2 symbol delay to one channel?
>
>thanks
>
>Mark

Yes, typically the delay is removed so that it becomes equivalent to
QPSK. The display is then identical to QPSK.


Eric Jacobsen
Minister of Algorithms
Abineau Communications
http://www.abineau.com
From: Mark on
On Jun 24, 12:46 am, eric.jacob...(a)ieee.org (Eric Jacobsen) wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT), Mark <makol...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >For standard QPSK,   the I and Q channels are (conceptually speaking)
> >displayed as XY on a scope and the scope beam  is turned on at the
> >symbol instant.  Ideally the combination of I and Q will be at one of
> >the 4 corner symbol locations during the symbol time.   The scope beam
> >can also be turned on dimly during the trajectory between symbol
> >times....so far so good.
>
> >Now for OQPSK, the I and Q symbols are staggered in time.  So when the
> >I channel is at its symbol value, the Q channel is in transition.
> >The two channels are never both at the symbol value at the same
> >time.   So how does one create a constellation display for OQPSK
> >showing the 4 symbol points?
>
> >Does it require a 1/2 symbol delay to one channel?
>
> >thanks
>
> >Mark
>
> Yes, typically the delay is removed so that it becomes equivalent to
> QPSK.   The display is then identical to QPSK.
>
> Eric Jacobsen
> Minister of Algorithms
> Abineau Communicationshttp://www.abineau.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

thank you
thank you

Mark