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From: Tom Stiller on 4 Jun 2010 16:55
In article <5eljauilgt.fsf(a)ethel.the.log>,
Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) writes:
>
> > OpinionSpy is a variant of spyware that has been infecting
> > Windows machines since 2008. The spyware asks for the users'
> > administrative passwords, claiming the software that will be installed
> >
> > will collect browsing and online shopping history.
>
> Does it really count as spyware/malware if it _tells_ you during the
> installation process that it is spyware/malware?

If that's all it die, it wouldn't need an admin password, or for that
matter, any password.

--
Tom Stiller

PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
From: Kurt Ullman on 4 Jun 2010 17:18
In article <4c09643e$0$1631$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) wrote:

> In article <5eljauilgt.fsf(a)ethel.the.log>,
> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) writes:
> >
> >> OpinionSpy is a variant of spyware that has been infecting
> >> Windows machines since 2008. The spyware asks for the users'
> >> administrative passwords, claiming the software that will be installed
> >>
> >> will collect browsing and online shopping history.
> >
> >Does it really count as spyware/malware if it _tells_ you during the
> >installation process that it is spyware/malware?
>
> If one is lame enough to give it the root password, then signs point to
> "yes".

Does that count as malware or suicide?

--
I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator
and name it after the IRS.
Robert Bakker, paleontologist
From: Claude V. Lucas on 4 Jun 2010 17:55
In article <Ds2dnUdtN90E8JTRnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <4c09643e$0$1631$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
> claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) wrote:
>
>> In article <5eljauilgt.fsf(a)ethel.the.log>,
>> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) writes:
>> >
>> >> OpinionSpy is a variant of spyware that has been infecting
>> >> Windows machines since 2008. The spyware asks for the users'
>> >> administrative passwords, claiming the software that will be installed
>> >>
>> >> will collect browsing and online shopping history.
>> >
>> >Does it really count as spyware/malware if it _tells_ you during the
>> >installation process that it is spyware/malware?
>>
>> If one is lame enough to give it the root password, then signs point to
>> "yes".
>
> Does that count as malware or suicide?
>

I've heard such behavior referred to in the South (USA) as "dumb fuckery".


From: Tom Harrington on 4 Jun 2010 19:01
In article <4c09763c$0$1633$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) wrote:

> In article <Ds2dnUdtN90E8JTRnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >In article <4c09643e$0$1631$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
> > claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <5eljauilgt.fsf(a)ethel.the.log>,
> >> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >claudel(a)sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) writes:
> >> >
> >> >> OpinionSpy is a variant of spyware that has been infecting
> >> >> Windows machines since 2008. The spyware asks for the users'
> >> >> administrative passwords, claiming the software that will be installed
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> will collect browsing and online shopping history.
> >> >
> >> >Does it really count as spyware/malware if it _tells_ you during the
> >> >installation process that it is spyware/malware?
> >>
> >> If one is lame enough to give it the root password, then signs point to
> >> "yes".
> >
> > Does that count as malware or suicide?
> >
>
> I've heard such behavior referred to in the South (USA) as "dumb fuckery".

The situation is also described as PEBKAC, "problem exists between
keyboard and chair".

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: Priam on 4 Jun 2010 19:05
On 06/04/2010 05:18 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:

> Does that count as malware or suicide?

You make a point. No OS can resist stupidity. Still, I wonder how come
OS X permits a program to call another one for installation. I don't
believe Linux would permit this.

One advice: install software only from reliable source. Apple.



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