From: D.M. Procida on
Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote:

> > How likely is this, compared to all the other things that cohere with
> > the evidence that makes him suspect a key-logger?
>
> I'm not 100% sure myself that he has a key-logger. He's an elderly chap
> probably exposed to some information published in the 'daily mail' on
> the existance of this.
>
> However, the girl that visited the computer (young 'friendly' one from
> the tennis club apparently) is clearly up to no good disseminating my
> friend's private emails to all and sundry, and causing considerable
> upset by this.

That sounds both horrible and quite possibly illegal.

I think you need to be sure about whether information continues to leak
from where it's not wanted to, or whether it leaked just once (and
continues to circulate).

Daniele
From: D.M. Procida on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> To key log the thing would need admin access so it would have needed to
> be installed by someone who knew the password (even if it was logged
> in).
> It would also need internet access, so either little snitch to tell you
> when something is connecting or netstat which will show you what is
> connected to where.

Not necessarily, because it could be collecting information for later
retrieval.

Before access to the Internet was so widespread, key-loggers were quite
likely to be discreet hardware devices attached to the keyboard.

Daniele
From: Adrian C on
On 27/06/2010 07:06, Chris Ridd wrote:
>> However, the girl that visited the computer (young 'friendly' one from
>> the tennis club apparently) is clearly up to no good disseminating my
>> friend's private emails to all and sundry, and causing considerable
>> upset by this.
>
> It sounds more likely that she's altered Mail to bcc her, or something
> like that. Does he use Mail, and what sort of mail accounts (gmail, etc)
> does he have?

He uses webmail from his ISP. The emails that have been re-sent by her
are old, not current - which means she is logging in to read and copy
them. I've gone through the actions regarding his use of passwords, and
the current one has been changed but he's (understandably) worried that
won't stop her.

Anyway, I'm not near to him to exactly diagnose this with something like
that Little Snitch (thanks(!)), and anyway he has his grandkids nearby
who are Mac bods - so I'll let them run through this AV software and see
if anything crops up.

If it does - they'll probably re-install the thing.

It's a bit of a pain.

I recommended a switch a couple of years ago to the Mac platform after
it became plain that he wasn't getting the hang of managing his own
security environment on Windows, at least keeping the OS patched and AV
updated. Now this :-(

Let's hang fire until some results show from him.

--
Adrian C
From: Woody on
Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote:

> On 27/06/2010 07:06, Chris Ridd wrote:
> >> However, the girl that visited the computer (young 'friendly' one from
> >> the tennis club apparently) is clearly up to no good disseminating my
> >> friend's private emails to all and sundry, and causing considerable
> >> upset by this.
> >
> > It sounds more likely that she's altered Mail to bcc her, or something
> > like that. Does he use Mail, and what sort of mail accounts (gmail, etc)
> > does he have?
>
> He uses webmail from his ISP. The emails that have been re-sent by her
> are old, not current - which means she is logging in to read and copy
> them. I've gone through the actions regarding his use of passwords, and
> the current one has been changed but he's (understandably) worried that
> won't stop her.
>
> Anyway, I'm not near to him to exactly diagnose this with something like
> that Little Snitch (thanks(!)), and anyway he has his grandkids nearby
> who are Mac bods - so I'll let them run through this AV software and see
> if anything crops up.

He has changed all his passwords hasn't he?

--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: J. J. Lodder on
Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote:

> On 27/06/2010 07:06, Chris Ridd wrote:
> >> However, the girl that visited the computer (young 'friendly' one from
> >> the tennis club apparently) is clearly up to no good disseminating my
> >> friend's private emails to all and sundry, and causing considerable
> >> upset by this.
> >
> > It sounds more likely that she's altered Mail to bcc her, or something
> > like that. Does he use Mail, and what sort of mail accounts (gmail, etc)
> > does he have?
>
> He uses webmail from his ISP. The emails that have been re-sent by her
> are old, not current - which means she is logging in to read and copy
> them. I've gone through the actions regarding his use of passwords, and
> the current one has been changed but he's (understandably) worried that
> won't stop her.

Remote Management on?
Screen Sharing on?

Jan

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