From: bz on
H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in news:of7ng1pt0580h8mi08hn1uj1e8l3i30253@
4ax.com:

> My graphs will probably remain upside down though.....brightness
increasing
> downwards.
>

Please put in a switch that lets us invert them so they can be properly
compared to magnitude graphs.

Also, as previously requested, a distance limit stopping point so we don't
have to keep guessing at when to hit the button to get a precise distance.



--
bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
From: Paul B. Andersen on
Henri Wilson wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:28:42 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
> <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
>
>
>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:18:48 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
>>><paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>
>
>>>>>The idea is indeed very stupid...and it is obviously hard for you to accept the
>>>>>fact that such stupidity underlies your own belief system.
>>>>>You have ben fooled Paul, by the world's greater ever hoaxer.
>>>>
>>>>So you know the idea:
>>>>"the invariance of the speed of light
>>>>implies the existence of a preferred frame"
>>>>is stupid, but you claim it anyway?
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't lie. I do not claim any universal preferred frame exists.
>>>I am one of the few TRUE relativists here.
>>
>>Can't you read?
>>I did NOT say that you claim a preferred frame exists.
>>
>>I said you claim that invariance of the speed of light
>>_implies_ that a preferred frame exist.
>>Which you do.
>>
>>And which is an idea so stupid that only a full blown
>>crank like you can claim it.
>
>
> Look Paul, the 'invariance of light speed' is a meaningless expression anyway.
> Do you mean invariance wrrt the source? Do you mean invariance wrt little
> planet Earth? Do you mean invariance of light's 'closing speed' between two
> objects?

If you still don't know what 'invariance of the speed of light' means,
any further explanation would be futile.

It simply is beyond you.

> To me, the claim that light speed wrt all observers is invariant is a sign of
> some kind of mental disorder akin to acute self-delusion.

Your inability to understand it is noted - a long time ago.

> However the claim doesn't necessarily require a preferred frame. Distorting
> space will achieve the same result.
> Trouble is, the same space will need an infinite number of distortions to
> accommodate all events that take place in it.

You are babbling again.

Paul
From: Henri Wilson on
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:55:04 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
<paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:

>Henri Wilson wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:28:42 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
>> <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:18:48 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
>>>><paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>The idea is indeed very stupid...and it is obviously hard for you to accept the
>>>>>>fact that such stupidity underlies your own belief system.
>>>>>>You have ben fooled Paul, by the world's greater ever hoaxer.
>>>>>
>>>>>So you know the idea:
>>>>>"the invariance of the speed of light
>>>>>implies the existence of a preferred frame"
>>>>>is stupid, but you claim it anyway?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Don't lie. I do not claim any universal preferred frame exists.
>>>>I am one of the few TRUE relativists here.
>>>
>>>Can't you read?
>>>I did NOT say that you claim a preferred frame exists.
>>>
>>>I said you claim that invariance of the speed of light
>>>_implies_ that a preferred frame exist.
>>>Which you do.
> >>
>>>And which is an idea so stupid that only a full blown
>>>crank like you can claim it.
>>
>>
>> Look Paul, the 'invariance of light speed' is a meaningless expression anyway.
>> Do you mean invariance wrrt the source? Do you mean invariance wrt little
>> planet Earth? Do you mean invariance of light's 'closing speed' between two
>> objects?
>
>If you still don't know what 'invariance of the speed of light' means,
>any further explanation would be futile.
>
>It simply is beyond you.

I know what it means according to LET.
I know that SR is just an unsubstantiated extension of LET.

>> To me, the claim that light speed wrt all observers is invariant is a sign of
>> some kind of mental disorder akin to acute self-delusion.
>
>Your inability to understand it is noted - a long time ago.
>
>> However the claim doesn't necessarily require a preferred frame. Distorting
>> space will achieve the same result.
>> Trouble is, the same space will need an infinite number of distortions to
>> accommodate all events that take place in it.
>
>You are babbling again.

way above YOUR head.

>
>Paul


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: Henri Wilson on
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:03:31 +0000 (UTC), bz <bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu>
wrote:

>H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in news:of7ng1pt0580h8mi08hn1uj1e8l3i30253@
>4ax.com:
>
>> My graphs will probably remain upside down though.....brightness
>increasing
>> downwards.
>>
>
>Please put in a switch that lets us invert them so they can be properly
>compared to magnitude graphs.

OK. I can do that ...with a fair bit of effort. I accept 'upside down' is a
nuisance.


>
>Also, as previously requested, a distance limit stopping point so we don't
>have to keep guessing at when to hit the button to get a precise distance.

You can set the 'starting distance' with a combo box. Just plugin the distance
you want and click the 'brightness curve' button. The program accepts that
figure and will give you the appropriate curves.



HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong.
From: "Androcles" <Androcles@ on

"Henri Wilson" <H@..> wrote in message
news:5hrpg1pnuunap0aov21l4qauser0m71p4u(a)4ax.com...
| On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:55:04 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
| <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
|
| >Henri Wilson wrote:
| >> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:28:42 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
| >> <paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
| >>
| >>
| >>>Henri Wilson wrote:
| >>>
| >>>>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:18:48 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
| >>>><paul.b.andersen(a)deletethishia.no> wrote:
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>>Henri Wilson wrote:
| >>
| >>
| >>>>>>The idea is indeed very stupid...and it is obviously hard for
you to accept the
| >>>>>>fact that such stupidity underlies your own belief system.
| >>>>>>You have ben fooled Paul, by the world's greater ever hoaxer.
| >>>>>
| >>>>>So you know the idea:
| >>>>>"the invariance of the speed of light
| >>>>>implies the existence of a preferred frame"
| >>>>>is stupid, but you claim it anyway?
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>Don't lie. I do not claim any universal preferred frame exists.
| >>>>I am one of the few TRUE relativists here.
| >>>
| >>>Can't you read?
| >>>I did NOT say that you claim a preferred frame exists.
| >>>
| >>>I said you claim that invariance of the speed of light
| >>>_implies_ that a preferred frame exist.
| >>>Which you do.
| > >>
| >>>And which is an idea so stupid that only a full blown
| >>>crank like you can claim it.
| >>
| >>
| >> Look Paul, the 'invariance of light speed' is a meaningless
expression anyway.
| >> Do you mean invariance wrrt the source? Do you mean invariance wrt
little
| >> planet Earth? Do you mean invariance of light's 'closing speed'
between two
| >> objects?
| >
| >If you still don't know what 'invariance of the speed of light'
means,
| >any further explanation would be futile.
| >
| >It simply is beyond you.
|
| I know what it means according to LET.
| I know that SR is just an unsubstantiated extension of LET.
|
| >> To me, the claim that light speed wrt all observers is invariant is
a sign of
| >> some kind of mental disorder akin to acute self-delusion.
| >
| >Your inability to understand it is noted - a long time ago.
| >
| >> However the claim doesn't necessarily require a preferred frame.
Distorting
| >> space will achieve the same result.
| >> Trouble is, the same space will need an infinite number of
distortions to
| >> accommodate all events that take place in it.
| >
| >You are babbling again.

> >> Paul haven't understood my experiment at all.
> >>You are babbling.


> >I was in Greece this summer.
> >I didn't understand a word.
> >They were babbling.


> >Paul


Androcles