From: Mike Rosenberg on
salgud <spamboy6547(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> > apple used to provide keyboard extension cables that could only be used
> > for extending the keyboard. it was incredibly stupid.
>
> Not stupid from Apple's point of view. If you could only use it for the
> keyboard, you'd have to buy another to hook up something else. More sales,
> more profits.

That would be true if Apple sold such USB extension cables.

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From: nospam on
In article <55s3xdlx4ew9$.xhv37a8q4gd2$.dlg(a)40tude.net>, salgud
<spamboy6547(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> > apple used to provide keyboard extension cables that could only be used
> > for extending the keyboard. it was incredibly stupid.
>
> Not stupid from Apple's point of view.

it's very stupid, and fortunately they realized it.

> If you could only use it for the
> keyboard, you'd have to buy another to hook up something else. More sales,
> more profits.

more sales for someone *else*, you mean. apple doesn't sell generic usb
cables.

of course, they could have made the keyboard cable a little longer in
the first place but that would offend steve's sense of aesthetics.
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

isw wrote:
> Someone just "gifted" me with a large box of assorted cables. Among them
> was an Apple-branded USB extension (male "A" on one end, female "A" on
> the other) with the addition that the female connector has a little bump
> sticking into the side of the socket so that no "ordinary" male USB plug
> can be inserted. I'm told that this cable is for use with an Apple
> keyboard (which presumably has a little notch to match the bump).
>
> Now, the result of this is that the keyboard's plug can be inserted into
> *any* USB socket, while nothing *but* the keyboard can use the extension
> cable.
>
> What's up with that? What is so special about that extension cable that
> it must not be used for anything except that one keyboard?

Nearly no other USB extension cables have this 'lock', which can mean
that the plugs can easily be taken from each others and you siddenly sit
with a 'non-working' keyboard. - I have had this 'problem' with one of
my friends. - Suddenly he calls me to tell that he can't do anything
with his mouse or keyboard... He has one of the extension cables without
the 'lock', so I told him to just looke if the plugs were connected
beneith his writing table... I think you can guess the rest..-)

This extension cable was/is dedicated to and delievered along with the
black/silver and white Apple Pro keyboards, which all have the short
'tale', where some of the dedicated iMac keyboards could be either with
a short or long 'tale' - as well as the 'hockey-puck' mouse...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: David Empson on
isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:

> Someone just "gifted" me with a large box of assorted cables. Among them
> was an Apple-branded USB extension (male "A" on one end, female "A" on
> the other) with the addition that the female connector has a little bump
> sticking into the side of the socket so that no "ordinary" male USB plug
> can be inserted. I'm told that this cable is for use with an Apple
> keyboard (which presumably has a little notch to match the bump).
>
> Now, the result of this is that the keyboard's plug can be inserted into
> *any* USB socket, while nothing *but* the keyboard can use the extension
> cable.
>
> What's up with that? What is so special about that extension cable that
> it must not be used for anything except that one keyboard?

For some reason, Apple thought it was a good idea to supply some of
their keyboards with relatively short bonded USB cables, but included an
extension cable with models where it was likely that the computer would
be installed some distance from the desktop (PowerMacs and similar).

The USB standard does not allow the use of extension cables with
arbitrary devices. The female "A" connector is never supposed to be used
on a cable. Any such cable you happen to be able to buy cannot be
certified as compliant with USB.

Apple's keyboard extender cable has a notch to prevent it being used
with other USB devices. Its use in conjunction with the keyboard is a
known pairing which Apple can test and establish that the combination
complies with USB electrical and signalling standards.

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From: isw on
In article <1jby5p5.1yvwe2a1isorokN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>,
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

> isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:
>
> > Someone just "gifted" me with a large box of assorted cables. Among them
> > was an Apple-branded USB extension (male "A" on one end, female "A" on
> > the other) with the addition that the female connector has a little bump
> > sticking into the side of the socket so that no "ordinary" male USB plug
> > can be inserted. I'm told that this cable is for use with an Apple
> > keyboard (which presumably has a little notch to match the bump).
> >
> > Now, the result of this is that the keyboard's plug can be inserted into
> > *any* USB socket, while nothing *but* the keyboard can use the extension
> > cable.
> >
> > What's up with that? What is so special about that extension cable that
> > it must not be used for anything except that one keyboard?
>
> For some reason, Apple thought it was a good idea to supply some of
> their keyboards with relatively short bonded USB cables, but included an
> extension cable with models where it was likely that the computer would
> be installed some distance from the desktop (PowerMacs and similar).
>
> The USB standard does not allow the use of extension cables with
> arbitrary devices. The female "A" connector is never supposed to be used
> on a cable. Any such cable you happen to be able to buy cannot be
> certified as compliant with USB.
>
> Apple's keyboard extender cable has a notch to prevent it being used
> with other USB devices. Its use in conjunction with the keyboard is a
> known pairing which Apple can test and establish that the combination
> complies with USB electrical and signalling standards.

There were a lot of "answers" to my question. This is the only one that
makes sense. Basically, Apple did not want to be in the position of
providing a "USB" cable which was not compliant with the USB standard.

Thanks

Isaac