From: Alcsy8 on
I understand that Office/Access 2010 beta will be problem free when launched
later this year. Infact I am looking forward to its launch to experience its
new web features.

I would like to highlight some unpredictable results when running Access
2007 runtime in XPhomeSP3 PC installed with Office 2010 beta. I also hope to
get some advice on how to overcome them. On other similar PC setup without
the beta, no problem.

1) Pivot Chart does not work
2) Simple function used by ribbon does not run.

Public Function cmdhelp()
On Error GoTo Err_Handler

MsgBox "Help Me!", , "Email help"
Exit_Handler:
Exit Function

Err_Handler:
MsgBox Err.Description, , "cmdhelp"
Resume Exit_Handler
End Function

3) Double-Click event (Works sometime")

Private Sub Description_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
On Error Resume Next
Dim stLinkCriteria As String
stLinkCriteria = "[id]= Forms![T_test]![ID]"
DoCmd.OpenForm ("frmzoom"), acNormal, , stLinkCriteria

End Sub

4) Some ribbon icons are empty.
5) Security Dialog popup even when the folder is trusted.

If Access 2010 does not address the above issues, I am afraid that my
program will fail on my client when they upgrade their Office to 2010.

Thanks
--
Alcsy8
From: Maurice on
hmmm, question. Let's say all of the issues you described here were still
there in the final product, would you ship it? So my guess is that when a
couple of thousand testers have been testing this product your found issues
will have been resolved once the final product ships.
--
Maurice Ausum


"Alcsy8" wrote:

> I understand that Office/Access 2010 beta will be problem free when launched
> later this year. Infact I am looking forward to its launch to experience its
> new web features.
>
> I would like to highlight some unpredictable results when running Access
> 2007 runtime in XPhomeSP3 PC installed with Office 2010 beta. I also hope to
> get some advice on how to overcome them. On other similar PC setup without
> the beta, no problem.
>
> 1) Pivot Chart does not work
> 2) Simple function used by ribbon does not run.
>
> Public Function cmdhelp()
> On Error GoTo Err_Handler
>
> MsgBox "Help Me!", , "Email help"
> Exit_Handler:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_Handler:
> MsgBox Err.Description, , "cmdhelp"
> Resume Exit_Handler
> End Function
>
> 3) Double-Click event (Works sometime")
>
> Private Sub Description_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
> On Error Resume Next
> Dim stLinkCriteria As String
> stLinkCriteria = "[id]= Forms![T_test]![ID]"
> DoCmd.OpenForm ("frmzoom"), acNormal, , stLinkCriteria
>
> End Sub
>
> 4) Some ribbon icons are empty.
> 5) Security Dialog popup even when the folder is trusted.
>
> If Access 2010 does not address the above issues, I am afraid that my
> program will fail on my client when they upgrade their Office to 2010.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Alcsy8
From: Alcsy8 on
Thanks that is reassuring.


--
Alcsy8


"Maurice" wrote:

> hmmm, question. Let's say all of the issues you described here were still
> there in the final product, would you ship it? So my guess is that when a
> couple of thousand testers have been testing this product your found issues
> will have been resolved once the final product ships.
> --
> Maurice Ausum
>
>
> "Alcsy8" wrote:
>
> > I understand that Office/Access 2010 beta will be problem free when launched
> > later this year. Infact I am looking forward to its launch to experience its
> > new web features.
> >
> > I would like to highlight some unpredictable results when running Access
> > 2007 runtime in XPhomeSP3 PC installed with Office 2010 beta. I also hope to
> > get some advice on how to overcome them. On other similar PC setup without
> > the beta, no problem.
> >
> > 1) Pivot Chart does not work
> > 2) Simple function used by ribbon does not run.
> >
> > Public Function cmdhelp()
> > On Error GoTo Err_Handler
> >
> > MsgBox "Help Me!", , "Email help"
> > Exit_Handler:
> > Exit Function
> >
> > Err_Handler:
> > MsgBox Err.Description, , "cmdhelp"
> > Resume Exit_Handler
> > End Function
> >
> > 3) Double-Click event (Works sometime")
> >
> > Private Sub Description_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
> > On Error Resume Next
> > Dim stLinkCriteria As String
> > stLinkCriteria = "[id]= Forms![T_test]![ID]"
> > DoCmd.OpenForm ("frmzoom"), acNormal, , stLinkCriteria
> >
> > End Sub
> >
> > 4) Some ribbon icons are empty.
> > 5) Security Dialog popup even when the folder is trusted.
> >
> > If Access 2010 does not address the above issues, I am afraid that my
> > program will fail on my client when they upgrade their Office to 2010.
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Alcsy8
From: Dennis on
Maurice,

You have a good point. But I wonder, were there a couple of thousand tester
for Windows ME and Vista? Did they fix all of the bugs before they released
it? No.

And which operating system crashed while Bill Gates was showing off the
release version (I think) to a large audience?

Granted ME was much worse the Vista with the bugs, but still.

Hopefuly Microsoft has learned from it past. I realize that this is a
Microsoft forum, but we also need to be honest.


Dennis



From: Mike Painter on
Dennis wrote:
> Maurice,
>
> You have a good point. But I wonder, were there a couple of thousand
> tester for Windows ME and Vista? Did they fix all of the bugs before
> they released it? No.
>
> And which operating system crashed while Bill Gates was showing off
> the release version (I think) to a large audience?
>
> Granted ME was much worse the Vista with the bugs, but still.
>
> Hopefuly Microsoft has learned from it past. I realize that this is a
> Microsoft forum, but we also need to be honest.
>
>
> Dennis

In the old days beta testing was done by people who usually signed non
disclosure agreements.
Today's method has a lot of advantages as at least a large set of people do
know what the term means and is willing to live with it.
*Nobody* is ever going to release a trouble free beta of anything, there
would be no point to it.

The final goldern release will also have bugs but hpoefully a lot fewer of
them.

IBM's major study many years ago indicates that in any major software
package fixing a bug has about a 50% chance of revealing or causing
another one.

I've seen this once in a while in long used "stable" programs I've written.
In a couple of those cases finding theproblem was very hard as Access
essentially let me get away with something that it should have "caught"
The last one had me moving a subform onto a tab control. The unbound textbox
that linked it to another subform stopped working. It's name was the same
as that of another field but it worked for years.