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From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 17 Nov 2009 15:19

"Phildo" <Phil(a)phildo.net> wrote in message
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> "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I will roll off hard at 40(24dB/octave) and brick wall limit at 35
>
> You may find they will want to go lower than that. Such is the nature of
> that sort of gig. See my other post about splitting the subs.
>
> Phildo
>
They may want to but my subs won't go there and I am not renting in
my subs can get solid 40
I have measured them to -10 at 32(updated driver from whenspecs came out)
I have no intention of trying to make the -10 point boosted to where
the -3 lives
adding lots of lf boost to compensate for performance you wish you had is
ALWAYS a mistake


From: Kevin T on 17 Nov 2009 16:24
George

If you don't absolutely have to I would skip this one. Nothing good
can come from that :) unless you have stock in EAW drivers :)



On Nov 17, 3:11 pm, "Phildo" <P...(a)phildo.net> wrote:
> "George's Pro Sound Co." <bm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:cMSdnS80B6Xga5_WnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>
> > Each stage will play to I am guessing not more than 400
> > I plan on 4 bh800 and 4 msl3's per stage
>
> Double the amount of subs.
>
> Most rave, hip-hop and similar systems are run at least 2 subs per top box.
> You might even want to look at splitting your subs into two frequency bands
> so they don't have to work so hard (high sub & low sub). Have done it that
> way a couple of times (2x18" boxes for 80-50Hz, 2x21" boxes for 50 and
> below) and it works really well.
>
> Phildo

From: DougD on 17 Nov 2009 16:30
In article <hO6dnQT8asaXfJ_WnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>I agreed to do a "little festival in a resort"
>this is what it is turning into
>
>http://www.paperchaserproductions.com/tickets.htm
>
>to say I am a little aprehensive would be a understatment
>this is pretty far away from what I do
>my thing is bluegrass , hindu and folk
>Maybe I will be alive at the end
>but I am to old and white to be "The Man" for this
>Peace
>george

I can tell ya one thing, there will be lot's and lot's and lot's
of half/mostly half/nekked snow bunnies!!! So, make
sure you bring some extra eyeglass cleaner and some
extra memory cards for the camera, and if'n you're feeling
ambitious, Caaandom's.. And some Nitro pills..
This wouldn't be my first pick for a gig, but these shows can
turn out to be, for lack of a better word.. funky.. as in things
all funked up.. Anyone gives you a hard time, tell them you're
on holiday from your usual Bootsy Collin's gig, he's like
Canada used to be when you'd get into some trouble...

Have fun!
d.

From: McSteve on 17 Nov 2009 18:56
"Phildo" wrote:
> Double the amount of subs.
>
> Most rave, hip-hop and similar systems are run at least 2 subs per top
> box. You might even want to look at splitting your subs into two frequency
> bands so they don't have to work so hard (high sub & low sub). Have done
> it that way a couple of times (2x18" boxes for 80-50Hz, 2x21" boxes for 50
> and below) and it works really well.
>

I'm with Phildo on this one. I would put all the 800s at main stage,
and the LA400s + those RCFs you own at the B stage. Then, I'd
split the sub duty into separate bands between the LAs and RCFs.
Obviously optimizing the duty of each pair relevant to their response
and output abilities.
I've worked plenty of funk/RnB/ hiphop shows and low end is what
they want. Have you done much reggae? Many of those acts want
more bass no matter what you have on hand.

--
Steve <snip> McQ


From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 17 Nov 2009 19:06

"McSteve" <mcsteve1350x(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Phildo" wrote:
>> Double the amount of subs.
>>
>> Most rave, hip-hop and similar systems are run at least 2 subs per top
>> box. You might even want to look at splitting your subs into two
>> frequency bands so they don't have to work so hard (high sub & low sub).
>> Have done it that way a couple of times (2x18" boxes for 80-50Hz, 2x21"
>> boxes for 50 and below) and it works really well.
>>
>
> I'm with Phildo on this one. I would put all the 800s at main stage,



> and the LA400s + those RCFs you own at the B stage. Then, I'd
> split the sub duty into separate bands between the LAs and RCFs.
> Obviously optimizing the duty of each pair relevant to their response
> and output abilities.

I did that onee time with the rcf as true subs and the la's as the woofers
topped with upa's It sounded great

> I've worked plenty of funk/RnB/ hiphop shows and low end is what
> they want. Have you done much reggae? Many of those acts want
> more bass no matter what you have on hand.
>
> --
> Steve <snip> McQ

Honestly this is not what I was lead to believe the show was about, I would
hav declined, right now I am weighing the loss of future work and the hit to
my reputation, plus the already out of pocket obligation to another aaplser
coming to be my man against the fact I just don't want to do what this
event has become
I guess I could always hope for a noreaster* :-)

*(heavy wet snow in the range of several feet caused by a storm sliding up
to the north east of the alantic coast, it shuts down citys like boston and
ny for a couple of days every 3rd year or so)
george
>
>


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