Prev: BBEdit vs. Text Wrangler
Next: Can I plug a firewire USB combo board into a PCI slot without any software under OS X?
From: nospam on 8 Mar 2010 01:27
In article <slrnhp9422.2nlf.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> I doubt it. It would be USB 1.1 (slow)

there are usb 2 cards available, however, os x is required.
From: nospam on 8 Mar 2010 01:29
In article <gl4317-0703102222510001(a)69-30-10-143.pxd.easystreet.com>,
<gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> So that all I need is to
> run a standard Ethernet cable between this computer and a newer one, and
> have file sharing turned on? Or does it need to be a special ethernet
> cable with a crossed pair of wires? (appologies, but my ethernet
> experience is pretty much nil, except for a very little bit of stuff with
> mainframes in the very early 1990s.)

you don't need a special cable. macs since about 1999 have autosensing
ports and only one of them needs to be autosensing. if you go through a
router, it's much easier, since it will handle the ip addresses.
From: nospam on 8 Mar 2010 02:09
In article <slrnhp987r.2nlf.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >>I doubt it. It would be USB 1.1 (slow)
>
> >there are usb 2 cards available, however, os x is required.
>
> There are USB 2.0 cards for PCMCIA? I don't think PCMCIA has the
> bandwidth for USB 2.0.

all powerbook g3 and later have cardbus, although kanga (the original
powerbook g3) had a pcmcia card cage but electrically it was still
cardbus. if the card cage was replaced (or filed down), a cardbus card
would fit and work.
From: David Empson on 8 Mar 2010 07:03
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <gl4317-0703102222510001(a)69-30-10-143.pxd.easystreet.com>,
> <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > So that all I need is to run a standard Ethernet cable between this
> > computer and a newer one, and have file sharing turned on? Or does it
> > need to be a special ethernet cable with a crossed pair of wires?
> > (appologies, but my ethernet experience is pretty much nil, except for a
> > very little bit of stuff with mainframes in the very early 1990s.)
>
> you don't need a special cable. macs since about 1999 have autosensing
> ports and only one of them needs to be autosensing.

I agree, apart from the timing details. Auto-MDIX was initially
supported on high-end Mac models from mid 2000 (PowerMac G4 Gigabit
Ethernet), and made it to everything by mid 2003.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2274

> if you go through a router, it's much easier, since it will handle the ip
> addresses.

With a direct cable connection, both computers will self-assign an IP
address in the 169.254.x.y range as long as they are running Mac OS 8.6
or later. You will need to type in the IP address of the server on the
client, unless you can use AppleTalk to do the file sharing connection.

If either computer is running 8.5.1 or earlier, you will need to set up
static IP addresses on both computers to make a TCP/IP connection over a
direct cable connection. (Not necessary if you can use AFP over
AppleTalk.)


The second part of the puzzle is file sharing compatiblity.


If the old Mac is running 9.x and the new one is running any recent
version of Mac OS X (except 10.6.0 or 10.6.1), you can turn on file
sharing with TCP/IP on the 9.x computer, and connect to it from the 10.x
computer.

You can also connect the other way around as long as the server is
running 10.5.x or earlier.

There is a bug in 10.6.0 and 10.6.1 which prevents any form of AFP
connection with 9.x or earlier. It was fixed in 10.6.2, allowing a
10.6.2 client to connect to a 9.x server, but a 9.x or earlier client
cannot connect to any version of 10.6.x as a server.


If the old Mac is running 8.6 or earlier, it doesn't support being a
file sharing server over TCP/IP, but you can do these:

- AFP over AppleTalk works with 10.3.x, but not with 10.4.x or later.
You will need to configure AppleTalk to use the Ethernet port.

- AFP over TCP/IP works between 8.x and 10.0.x through 10.5.x. Enable
file sharing on the Mac OS X computer and connect to it from the Mac OS
8.x computer.

You cannot connect between 8.6 or earlier and 10.6 or later (either way)
without additional software: Shareway IP or AppleShare IP allow the 8.x
computer to be a file sharing server over TCP/IP.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Michael L Kankiewicz on 8 Mar 2010 09:45
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Lewis wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking that the easiest way to get the files off of the thing
>> would be to get a USB card for it.
>
> I doubt it. It would be USB 1.1 (slow) and you can't really network via
> USB. I suppose you could attach a thumb drive and hope it works
> correctly with USB 1.1 and then very slowly copy the files.

I used to use one similar this on my Wallstreet under OX 9. I little
slow, but not painfully so.

http://salestores.com/keu2usb20pcc.html

First  |  Prev  |  Next  |  Last
Pages: 1 2 3 4
Prev: BBEdit vs. Text Wrangler
Next: Can I plug a firewire USB combo board into a PCI slot without any software under OS X?