From: Sylvia Else on
On 17/06/2010 6:44 PM, Archimedes' Lever wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:35:40 +1000, Sylvia Else<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Common sense has often been found wanting.
>
> Especially your brand of it.
>

At the I wrote the statment, I wondered whether you'd be able to resist
posting the obvious insult.

But, of course, you couldn't, which doesn't really surprise me.

Sylvia.
From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:36:51 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid>
wrote:

>On 17/06/2010 6:43 PM, Archimedes' Lever wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:35:40 +1000, Sylvia Else<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> He mentioned a sequence, but provided no indication of its nature.
>>
>>
>> Wrong! He stated that it was AFTER the mouse start event, which is why
>> it is of ZERO significance.
>
>It would be surprising if it was before.

That inkling of logic was missing in your previous craptography.
>
>But as to its significance, of course it's significant.

Absolutely not. All the OP wants is the start event to be at exactly
the same time. Without anything regarding subsequent actions or events,
you should be able to answer the question without ANY further info
related to any subsequent toggles.

> Starting a
>particular sequence of memory reads and writes would be well nigh
>impossible.

You do not know that, and have you ever heard of reflective memory?
Do you know how it gets written or how it gets passed from the machine
the memory is on to the machine the reflective memory is on, despite the
distance between them?


> Starting a particular sequence of program executions would
>be quite easy.

I cannot even be sure that you are even aware of that.
From: Sylvia Else on
On 17/06/2010 8:27 PM, Archimedes' Lever wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:36:51 +1000, Sylvia Else<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 17/06/2010 6:43 PM, Archimedes' Lever wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:35:40 +1000, Sylvia Else<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> He mentioned a sequence, but provided no indication of its nature.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wrong! He stated that it was AFTER the mouse start event, which is why
>>> it is of ZERO significance.
>>
>> It would be surprising if it was before.
>
> That inkling of logic was missing in your previous craptography.

It seemed unecessary to state that an effect will follow its cause. No
counter-examples have ever been observed.

>>
>> But as to its significance, of course it's significant.
>
> Absolutely not. All the OP wants is the start event to be at exactly
> the same time.

And what does "exactly the same time" mean? The events received by the
two computers will be at differet locations in space. The resulting
separation may be time like or spacelike. If they're time-like, they
won't even have a defined order. Exactly the same time is a problematic
concept. The OP needs to qualify "exactly the same time" for his
question even to have a meaning.


Without anything regarding subsequent actions or events,
> you should be able to answer the question without ANY further info
> related to any subsequent toggles.
>
>> Starting a
>> particular sequence of memory reads and writes would be well nigh
>> impossible.
>
> You do not know that, and have you ever heard of reflective memory?
> Do you know how it gets written or how it gets passed from the machine
> the memory is on to the machine the reflective memory is on, despite the
> distance between them?

They are PCs. They can, in the absence of statements to the contrary, be
assumed to have ordinary memory.

>
>
>> Starting a particular sequence of program executions would
>> be quite easy.
>
> I cannot even be sure that you are even aware of that.

I've stated it - why wouldn't I be unaware of it?

Sylvia.

From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 00:04:41 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid>
wrote:

>>> Starting a
>>> particular sequence of memory reads and writes would be well nigh
>>> impossible.
>>
>> You do not know that, and have you ever heard of reflective memory?
>> Do you know how it gets written or how it gets passed from the machine
>> the memory is on to the machine the reflective memory is on, despite the
>> distance between them?
>
>They are PCs. They can, in the absence of statements to the contrary, be
>assumed to have ordinary memory.
>
>>

"Nigh impossible" is not "only in ordinary memory", AND my observation
involves machines separated, so the problem should be worse, according to
you. It is not, however.

I think your logic is flawed.