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From: Andrew Jensen on 4 May 2010 07:51 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:42 AM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti(a)nexaima.net> wrote: > Greetings, > > I just interviewed Tony, who's starting an audio documentation project > for blind computer users willing to switch to Linux and Free Software: > > http://stop.zona-m.net/node/150 > > the question for this list is: do audio tutorials like those Tony is > asking for already exist for OOo, even on Windows? I mean, not generic > ones, but specifically: > > audio tutorials for Writer, or Calc, or Impress, Base... > > or text tutorials written in a way that a vision-impaired user could > actually follow them, when spoken with a speech synthesizer (example: > a tutorial that reads things like "and now click on the blue button" > would not work) > > If such resources already exist, thanks in advance for letting me (or > Tony!) know, I'll forward the links and add them to my article. > > Marco > > Hello Marco, Great lead - and timely to me. I tried setting up the odt2daisy extension, about 2 weeks ago, but have not been able to get it to function, the idea was to see if I could convert our user manuals to daisy format files. I've been meaning to ask for help on the list, if we could do this I think it would fit. Ideas? Drew
From: "M. Fioretti" on 4 May 2010 08:01 On Tue, May 04, 2010 07:51:10 AM -0400, Andrew Jensen (drewjensen.inbox(a)gmail.com) wrote: > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:42 AM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti(a)nexaima.net> wrote: > > I just interviewed Tony, who's starting an audio documentation > project for blind computer users willing to switch to Linux and Free > Software: http://stop.zona-m.net/node/150 > > Hello Marco, > > Great lead - and timely to me. > > I tried setting up the odt2daisy extension, about 2 weeks ago, but > have not been able to get it to function, the idea was to see if I > could convert our user manuals to daisy format files. I've been > meaning to ask for help on the list, if we could do this I think it > would fit. Andrew, I'm happy you find Tony's project a great idea. Personally I don't know anything about that extension so I can't help you. Speaking of the tutorials that you could produce once it works, I _believe_ that they would be useful (if the original text _was_ written with accessibility in mind, see my first post), but the best thing to do would be to directly ask tony via email. If you do, please keep me in CC, I'd like to know how things develop. Ciao, Marco --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Malte Timmermann on 4 May 2010 08:17 Hi Marco and Drew. Draw - odf2daisy worked for me the last time I tried it. If you have any issues with that contact the author (Vincent). He is very cooperative. Marco - I am not aware of anything you are looking for in English. I am only aware of a German project that works on instruction material for blind people. They cover different applications on Linux, including at least OOo Writer. They also include hints for OOo configuration. e.g. for blind people the automatic correction/completion might be a bad thing and should be turned of. I guess it's only available in German, and it's using a not very commonly used screen reader. But maybe it helps for getting some ideas on what to document, and how the documentation should look like. Just in case you have somebody in the team who can read/translate German... SUE project: http://service.it-science-center.de/mediawiki/index.php/4_Schulungskonzept A concrete lesson: http://service.it-science-center.de/mediawiki/index.php/4.5.5_INCOBS_Hamburg HTH, Malte. Andrew Jensen wrote, On 05/04/10 13:51: > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:42 AM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti(a)nexaima.net> wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I just interviewed Tony, who's starting an audio documentation project >> for blind computer users willing to switch to Linux and Free Software: >> >> http://stop.zona-m.net/node/150 >> >> the question for this list is: do audio tutorials like those Tony is >> asking for already exist for OOo, even on Windows? I mean, not generic >> ones, but specifically: >> >> audio tutorials for Writer, or Calc, or Impress, Base... >> >> or text tutorials written in a way that a vision-impaired user could >> actually follow them, when spoken with a speech synthesizer (example: >> a tutorial that reads things like "and now click on the blue button" >> would not work) >> >> If such resources already exist, thanks in advance for letting me (or >> Tony!) know, I'll forward the links and add them to my article. >> >> Marco >> >> > Hello Marco, > > Great lead - and timely to me. > > I tried setting up the odt2daisy extension, about 2 weeks ago, but have not > been able to get it to function, the idea was to see if I could convert our > user manuals to daisy format files. I've been meaning to ask for help on the > list, if we could do this I think it would fit. > > Ideas? > > Drew > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: jonathon on 4 May 2010 15:01 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2010 11:51 AM, Andrew Jensen wrote: > I tried setting up the odt2daisy extension, about 2 weeks ago, but have not been able to get it to function, What precisely do you mean by "have not been able to get it to function"? > the idea was to see if I could convert our user manuals to daisy format files. Personally, I wouldn't bother with the DAISY file format. Either create straight Braille (which OOo currently does not support) or create A11Y friendly PDFs for documentation. (There are several striking similarities between OO-XML and DAISY, the most significant being that they are problems in search of a solution.) jonathon - -- Non-list email sent to this email address is forwarded to Dave Null, unread. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvgbwkACgkQVyQBHg3MfvSmHgCgmrsAPO+PQ45eQqsSrIFOae90 K0MAn3yB0T65aY3gkeesUWs8vfZpLqPM =TLJ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Andrew Jensen on 4 May 2010 22:07 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:01 PM, jonathon <jonathon.blake(a)gmail.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/04/2010 11:51 AM, Andrew Jensen wrote: > >> I tried setting up the odt2daisy extension, about 2 weeks ago, but have not been able to get it to function, > > What precisely do you mean by "have not been able to get it to function"? Hello Jonathon, Well, Last time I tried (using some OO.o dev build, don;t recall which) under 64bit Linux, it would hang without ever getting to the first dialog. Today I downloaded a new copy of odt2Daisy 2.1 and installed it with OO.o 3.2 and dev 3.2.1m_16 under 32 bit Vista. I've started a conversation on the documentation mailing list and would like to use one list if possible, sounds like you have some experience here and I appreciated your input. Also, will be using the wiki to keep track of things as I go: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:DrewJensen/daisy Best wishes, Drew > >> the idea was to see if I could convert our user manuals to daisy > format files. > > Personally, I wouldn't bother with the DAISY file format. Either create > straight Braille (which OOo currently does not support) or create A11Y > friendly PDFs for documentation. (There are several striking > similarities between OO-XML and DAISY, the most significant being that > they are problems in search of a solution.) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
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