From: Merciadri Luca on
Hi,

When opening a (downloaded) file, the Debian user is often (if not
always) asked if he wants to open it, or to save it. Well, actually,
opening it saves it in /tmp/, but that's not a problem.

The problem is that ticking `Open with' only gives you a list of
choices. You can choose `Other' and it directly opens ~/ so that you can
select the binary which can render the related file. The problem is that
it's
* basically easier to write a command, i.e. at the place of `Open with
... Other', it could be interesting to have a box where you can write
e.g. `kile' if you want the file to be opened with `kile', etc.;
* not often possible for the user to select a binary which is not in his
directories.


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From: Camaleón on
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:25:15 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> When opening a (downloaded) file, the Debian user is often (if not
> always) asked if he wants to open it, or to save it. Well, actually,
> opening it saves it in /tmp/, but that's not a problem.

Are you saying that when you select "Open with..." and choose an
application the file gets downloaded to "/tmp" and does not get opened?
>:-?

> The problem is that ticking `Open with' only gives you a list of
> choices.

The ones that are recognized by the OS in the "mimetype" database.

> You can choose `Other' and it directly opens ~/ so that you can
> select the binary which can render the related file.

Yep, in GNOME it opens the standard "file browse" menu.

> The problem is that
> it's
> * basically easier to write a command, i.e. at the place of `Open with
> ... Other', it could be interesting to have a box where you can write
> e.g. `kile' if you want the file to be opened with `kile', etc.;

Sure.

> * not
> often possible for the user to select a binary which is not in his
> directories.

You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no
problem with that.

For commom application extensions (.pdf, .tiff, etc...), it is useful to
add them in Icewesel (programs) in order to get the right applications
displayed when you select "Open with...".

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From: Merciadri Luca on
Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:25:15 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>
>> When opening a (downloaded) file, the Debian user is often (if not
>> always) asked if he wants to open it, or to save it. Well, actually,
>> opening it saves it in /tmp/, but that's not a problem.
>>
>
> Are you saying that when you select "Open with..." and choose an
> application the file gets downloaded to "/tmp" and does not get opened?
>
No, it gets opened, but this is actually also a `file saving.'
(Everybody knows it, but, strictly speaking, `Open' is error-prone.)
>> :-?
>>
?
>> The problem is that ticking `Open with' only gives you a list of
>> choices.
>>
>
> The ones that are recognized by the OS in the "mimetype" database.
>
Yes.
>> You can choose `Other' and it directly opens ~/ so that you can
>> select the binary which can render the related file.
>>
>
> Yep, in GNOME it opens the standard "file browse" menu.
>
>
>> The problem is that
>> it's
>> * basically easier to write a command, i.e. at the place of `Open with
>> ... Other', it could be interesting to have a box where you can write
>> e.g. `kile' if you want the file to be opened with `kile', etc.;
>>
>
> Sure.
>
>
>> * not
>> often possible for the user to select a binary which is not in his
>> directories.
>>
>
> You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no
> problem with that.
>
Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box!
> For commom application extensions (.pdf, .tiff, etc...), it is useful to
> add them in Icewesel (programs) in order to get the right applications
> displayed when you select "Open with...".
>
Yes. I did it. ;)

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From: Sjoerd Hardeman on
Merciadri Luca schreef:
> ...
>> You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no
>> problem with that.
>>
> Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box!
True. Yet sending this complaint to this list probably won't solve it.
Filing a 'wish list'-bug to the gnome-upstream people might.

From: Camaleón on
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:11:53 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:

>> Are you saying that when you select "Open with..." and choose an
>> application the file gets downloaded to "/tmp" and does not get opened?
>>
> No, it gets opened, but this is actually also a `file saving.'
> (Everybody knows it, but, strictly speaking, `Open' is error-prone.)

Okay then.

(...)

>> You can browse the full filesystem (from "/" to lower paths). I have no
>> problem with that.
>>
> Yes, but this is really really tedious as compared to an input box!

I agree. It should be desirable to have such "auto-binary-search" option.

But I dunno who to "blame" here (GNOME file browser could indeed add that
option but it will require a UI redesign -it is already there, but in
other place, not in file browser UI-, and Firefox/Iceweasel could also
improve the current status of the" Open with" window manager...).

Mmm... hard choice. Let's blame both :-P

(just kidding)

Greetings,

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