Outgoing Approval Queue - Yes This is a Dumb Idea
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From: "Zachary Burns" on 26 Apr 2010 08:39 I have a company controller that loves to micro-manage people and unfortunately loves to do it with software instead of dealing with the people problem...but anyway I'm getting off on a rant.... Is there a way to have postfix queue outgoing mail until he reviews it and if it's valid release the email and send it as normal. I can write a web interface to have him allow/deny messages in the queue, but wanted to even know if I'm barking up the wrong tree. If he wants to sit there all day approving/denying messages that's fine with me (but I think it's a waste - just fire the employees! There's plenty of good people out there that would love a job now-a-days). Zack __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5062 (20100426) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: Matt Hayes on 26 Apr 2010 08:44 On 4/26/2010 8:39 AM, Zachary Burns wrote: > I have a company controller that loves to micro-manage people and > unfortunately loves to do it with software instead of dealing with the > people problem...but anyway I'm getting off on a rant.... > > Is there a way to have postfix queue outgoing mail until he reviews it and > if it's valid release the email and send it as normal. I can write a web > interface to have him allow/deny messages in the queue, but wanted to even > know if I'm barking up the wrong tree. > > If he wants to sit there all day approving/denying messages that's fine with > me (but I think it's a waste - just fire the employees! There's plenty of > good people out there that would love a job now-a-days). > > Zack > Zack, Slap him.. first of all. Second.. WHY? Third.. "Not that I know of" Even if company emails is considered company 'property' at times, there's still a question of privacy and what laws he COULD be breaking doing as such. and that's.. like you said, a dumb idea. He'll 1) forget to do it 2) be too much that he gives up 3) see things he probably shouldn't 4) vacation and it won't get done. I can go on, there are just a LOT of reasons why you do NOT want to allow this. -Matt
From: "Zachary Burns" on 26 Apr 2010 08:53 I agree 100% - I told him that it's not possible, but was curious of the answer as it might make sense for a VERY small organization that needs to contain sensitive data, BUT I can't imagine doing this myself or realistically for our business - what a mess that would be. You've confirmed my thoughts. Thanks. Zack -----Original Message----- From: owner-postfix-users(a)postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-users(a)postfix.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hayes Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:45 AM To: postfix-users(a)postfix.org Subject: Re: Outgoing Approval Queue - Yes This is a Dumb Idea On 4/26/2010 8:39 AM, Zachary Burns wrote: > I have a company controller that loves to micro-manage people and > unfortunately loves to do it with software instead of dealing with the > people problem...but anyway I'm getting off on a rant.... > > Is there a way to have postfix queue outgoing mail until he reviews it and > if it's valid release the email and send it as normal. I can write a web > interface to have him allow/deny messages in the queue, but wanted to even > know if I'm barking up the wrong tree. > > If he wants to sit there all day approving/denying messages that's fine with > me (but I think it's a waste - just fire the employees! There's plenty of > good people out there that would love a job now-a-days). > > Zack > Zack, Slap him.. first of all. Second.. WHY? Third.. "Not that I know of" Even if company emails is considered company 'property' at times, there's still a question of privacy and what laws he COULD be breaking doing as such. and that's.. like you said, a dumb idea. He'll 1) forget to do it 2) be too much that he gives up 3) see things he probably shouldn't 4) vacation and it won't get done. I can go on, there are just a LOT of reasons why you do NOT want to allow this. -Matt __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5062 (20100426) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5062 (20100426) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: Tom Hendrikx on 26 Apr 2010 08:54 Zachary Burns wrote: > I have a company controller that loves to micro-manage people and > unfortunately loves to do it with software instead of dealing with the > people problem...but anyway I'm getting off on a rant.... > > Is there a way to have postfix queue outgoing mail until he reviews it and > if it's valid release the email and send it as normal. I can write a web > interface to have him allow/deny messages in the queue, but wanted to even > know if I'm barking up the wrong tree. > > If he wants to sit there all day approving/denying messages that's fine with > me (but I think it's a waste - just fire the employees! There's plenty of > good people out there that would love a job now-a-days). > > Zack > Hi, As you said, ranting about the initial idea is food for a separate thread. The issue you want to resolve, sounds a lot like mailing list software with posting approval. I'm not sure if existing mailing list software has the option to send to arbitrary recipients (ignoring the 'list' concept), or can be hacked easily into doing what you need. Setting up postfix into pushing all the e-mail from 'monitored employees' to the mailing list software seems trivial to me. -- Regards, Tom
From: Mark Goodge on 26 Apr 2010 09:10 On 26/04/2010 13:39, Zachary Burns wrote: > I have a company controller that loves to micro-manage people and > unfortunately loves to do it with software instead of dealing with the > people problem...but anyway I'm getting off on a rant.... You are aware that this list is archived publicly, I hope :-) http://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+have+a+company+controller+that+loves+to+micro-manage+people%22 > Is there a way to have postfix queue outgoing mail until he reviews it and > if it's valid release the email and send it as normal. I can write a web > interface to have him allow/deny messages in the queue, but wanted to even > know if I'm barking up the wrong tree. I don't think there's any way you can do this with the MTA alone, at least not directly. If I was undertaking a project like this, I'd work on the same principle as virus and spam scanning - that is, divert all mail submitted on the standard port to an external application, and then allow that application to re-inject it on a different port where it is then handled as normal. It wouldn't be too complicated to write the necessary external app yourself, if you're a reasonably competent programmer in any language you've got available on your system (since you want a web-based interface, I'd be inclined to do it all in PHP, but that's just personal preference). One possible way of doing it with off-the-shelf software would be to use something like Maia Mailguard - configure it to quarantine *everything*, and then use the built-in web-based management system to release the messages that are approved. As others have said, though, it is an incredibly dumb idea for any situation other than places where you might be dealing with genuinely top secret material. Mark
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