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From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 16 Apr 2010 10:20 Outlook has never supported 'floating' appointments - they are always pinned to a specific UTC time and if you change the time zone, the appointment time changes. Even all day appointments change to 24 hrs over 2 days (ie, 11 pm - 11 pm or 1 am - 1 am) when the time zone is changed. Outlook 2010 now supports all day even that stick to the date but timed appointments will move with the time zone changes (you can select a time zone for appointments so you don't have to think about the correct time in that zone while in a different zone) >> Outlook's support of "floating time" format in vcalendar files (.vcs) is not working. Outlook always interprets the DTSTART and DTEND fields of the .vcs as UTC, whether or not the DATE-TIME string is terminated with the "Z". According to RCF 2445, the "Z" indicates UTC, and the absence of the "Z" indicates local ("floating") time. Example: DTSTART:20090822T080000 should be imported as "8:00 am" local; instead, it's being imported as 01:00 am local (PDT) time. Compare to DTSTART:20090822T080000Z (this is 01:00 am PDT) and DTSTART:20090822T150000Z (this is equivalent to 08:00 am PDT) >> -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/ Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request(a)lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM New Poll: What type of email account is your main account? http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=42402 "webgurupc" <webgurupc.49cqmo(a)invalid> wrote in message news:webgurupc.49cqmo(a)invalid... > > By the way it works OK Outlook 2000. > > Sometime after then Microsoft must have had an office party! > > > -- > webgurupc > http://forums.slipstick.com >
From: webgurupc on 16 Apr 2010 20:23 'Diane Poremsky [MVP Wrote: > ;140230']Outlook has never supported 'floating' appointments - they are > always pinned > to a specific UTC time Many Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately it is not correct. I run outlook 2002. The VCS file below works as a floating time, as their is no "Z" after the DSTART & DEND fields. This appt comes up on my computer as 9am to 11am, no mater what timezone I set OUTLOOK to. Code: -------------------- BEGIN: VCALENDAR PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN VERSION:1.0 BEGIN:VEVENT DTSTART:20100504T090000 DTEND:20100504T11000 UID: Cars.PoolBooking. SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Meeting PRIORITY:3 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR: -------------------- This Appointment is linked to UTC as there is a "Z" after the DSTART & DEND fields. Code: -------------------- BEGIN: VCALENDAR PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN VERSION:1.0 BEGIN:VEVENT DTSTART:20100504T090000Z DTEND:20100504T11000Z UID: Cars.PoolBooking. SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:meeting PRIORITY:3 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR: -------------------- So I think my office party theory stills stands, but I am very happy to be corrected. -- webgurupc http://forums.slipstick.com
From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 17 Apr 2010 09:35 When its first opened, it will be on 9 -11, but when you change the computer's time zone, it will stay on 9-11 in the time zone you used when you added it to the calendar. It will not float to 9 -11 in every time zone - but it will be added to 9 -11 if you reopen it from the hard drive. (http://slipstick.me/jing/time.png) That is not how Outlook works. It works as expected in Outlook 2010 and 2003 - those are the only 2 versions I have accessible at the moment. You said it works like this in 2000 also but not 2002? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/ Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request(a)lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM New Poll: What type of email account is your main account? http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=42402 "webgurupc" <webgurupc.49je7p(a)invalid> wrote in message news:webgurupc.49je7p(a)invalid... > > 'Diane Poremsky [MVP Wrote: >> ;140230']Outlook has never supported 'floating' appointments - they are >> always pinned >> to a specific UTC time > > Many Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately it is not correct. > > I run outlook 2002. The VCS file below works as a floating time, as > their is no "Z" after the DSTART & DEND fields. This appt comes up on my > computer as 9am to 11am, no mater what timezone I set OUTLOOK to. > > Code: > -------------------- > BEGIN: VCALENDAR > PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN > VERSION:1.0 > BEGIN:VEVENT > DTSTART:20100504T090000 > DTEND:20100504T11000 > UID: Cars.PoolBooking. > SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Meeting > PRIORITY:3 > END:VEVENT > END:VCALENDAR: > > -------------------- > > > > This Appointment is linked to UTC as there is a "Z" after the DSTART & > DEND fields. > > Code: > -------------------- > BEGIN: VCALENDAR > PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN > VERSION:1.0 > BEGIN:VEVENT > DTSTART:20100504T090000Z > DTEND:20100504T11000Z > UID: Cars.PoolBooking. > SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:meeting > PRIORITY:3 > END:VEVENT > END:VCALENDAR: > > -------------------- > > > So I think my office party theory stills stands, but I am very happy > to be corrected. > > > -- > webgurupc > http://forums.slipstick.com >
From: webgurupc on 17 Apr 2010 19:33 So many thanks for your reply. This thread is really getting interesting now. I have read & reread your reply and am hoping I have made sense of it. Please forgive me if I interperated your reply incorrectly. > When its first opened, it will be on 9 -11, but when you change the > computer's time zone, it will stay on 9-11 in the time zone you used > when > you added it to the calendar. It will not float to 9 -11 in every time > zone - but it will be added to 9 -11 if you reopen it from the hard > drive. Correct - this is what is happening in Outlook 2002 & 2000 Once the apointment is made in outlook it will move as per timezone - but this part doesn't interest me. Just the part that one cannot add a NEW appointment with a floating timezone (without the "z" ) to outlook as one used to be able to do. > It works as expected in Outlook 2010 and 2003 I don't understand your "as expected"? Do you mean it floats without the Z? Here it works correctly. (real sorry about the video quality - somewhere between me and utube it went fuzzy) <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/goCu5cOj0lw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/goCu5cOj0lw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> -- webgurupc http://forums.slipstick.com
From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 18 Apr 2010 15:20 As expected means that opening the vcs from my hard drive opens it with the time of 9 -11. When I save it to the calendar and change the time zone to PT, the 9 -11 appointment moves to 6 -8. This is all expected. http://slipstick.me/jing/tz.png - this is Outlook 2003. I pasted the vcs code into notepad and saved, then opened it. Changed the time zone, reopened the vcs. It's 9 am in the current time zone. This worked in both Outlook 2003 and 2010 the other day. However, today its acting weird in outlook 2010/Win 7. When I change the time zone and reopen the vcs, the time adjusts - based on the differential between the old time zone and the new one. It is not opening based on the UTC - I'm in ET (-4 right now) and the first appointment is for 9 am. Saving it and changing the time zone then reopening the vcs from my hard drive - and the vcs has adjusted so its still on 9 AM ET. Because of this weirdness, I decided to bring up Outlook 2007. It uses UTC time - the appointment is 5am. This is what you see in 2000 and 2002, correct? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/ Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request(a)lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM New Poll: What type of email account is your main account? http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=42402 "webgurupc" <webgurupc.49l6kc(a)invalid> wrote in message news:webgurupc.49l6kc(a)invalid... > > So many thanks for your reply. This thread is really getting interesting > now. > > I have read & reread your reply and am hoping I have made sense of it. > Please forgive me if I interperated your reply incorrectly. > >> When its first opened, it will be on 9 -11, but when you change the >> computer's time zone, it will stay on 9-11 in the time zone you used >> when >> you added it to the calendar. It will not float to 9 -11 in every time >> zone - but it will be added to 9 -11 if you reopen it from the hard >> drive. > > Correct - this is what is happening in Outlook 2002 & 2000 > > Once the apointment is made in outlook it will move as per timezone - > but this part doesn't interest me. Just the part that one cannot add a > NEW appointment with a floating timezone (without the "z" ) to outlook > as one used to be able to do. > >> It works as expected in Outlook 2010 and 2003 > > I don't understand your "as expected"? Do you mean it floats without > the Z? > > Here it works correctly. (real sorry about the video quality - > somewhere between me and utube it went fuzzy) > <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" > value="http://www.youtube.com/v/goCu5cOj0lw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param > name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param > name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed > src="http://www.youtube.com/v/goCu5cOj0lw&hl=en&fs=1" > type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" > allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> > > > -- > webgurupc > http://forums.slipstick.com >
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