Outlook should contain a calendar field for spouse's birthday
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From: rlp on 28 Jan 2010 17:06 I agree as well - there needs to be at least a field for the spouse's birthday and kids as well. Moreover the age is important in the financial planning business. Perhaps this has been updated since the 2007 postings but we cant find it. "John." wrote: > I would agree with the original poster. However one thing that is also a pain > doing it this way is that even though the birthday is in the calendar and > linked to the main contact - which is OK for me, I would really like to see > birthday age showing as it would if it was a sole contact with the date > entered correctly. > > If we set a calendar entry to "Birthday" it would be nice to have it display > in the same way with the age showing - just add somewhere to put in the year > of birth and it can do the rest. > > "shellig" wrote: > > > To answer your first response, making an appointment is unacceptable because > > you can have the problem I had where the link gets broken or the event get > > accidently deleted and you no longer have the actual date of the > > child/spouse's birthday. > > And to answer kj...contacts is like an address book. When a child moves out > > of the home, I create a contact for them, not before...so I would never have > > grandchildren listed...I would make a note that the child is connected (and > > link if possible) and remove that child's birthdate so it doesn't show up > > twice... > > I think it is better to HAVE this option and choose not to use it than just > > to say it is not useful. This has been asked for for years by Outlook > > users!!! > > > > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: > > > > > Separate contacts isn't necessary - and can be confusing (because you don't > > > need a contact for the kids), but you can make separate events for members > > > of the family and link them to one contact. > > > > > > -- > > > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > > > Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours > > > Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide) > > > Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide) > > > > > > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > > > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > > Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: > > > EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > > > > > > > > "kj" <kj(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message > > > news:uUU0BOKyFHA.2848(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > > > What happens when a kid grows up, gets married, has a spouse of his/her > > > > own and then has kids? Should there be grandchildren and their birthdays > > > > too? Great-grandchildren, half brothers, sister in-laws? > > > > > > > > If you really want to track these individuals then they should be separate > > > > contacts. If you need to group them as descendants and antecedents you > > > > could always create your own family 'categories'. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > /kj > > > > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp(a)msn.com> wrote in message > > > > news:O1Y8zFKyFHA.2800(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > > >> Why is making an appointment not acceptable? You would need to enter the > > > >> same information into the contact form anyway. How many children's > > > >> birthday fields would be acceptable? > > > >> > > > >> http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2005/20050823.htm > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > > > >> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours > > > >> Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide) > > > >> Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide) > > > >> > > > >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > > > >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > > > >> Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: > > > >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> "netbroad" <netbroad(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > >> news:C9D284A5-E463-46F8-9EDB-A3B50AEB8682(a)microsoft.com... > > > >>>I would like to be able to add extra birthdays to one main contact, so > > > >>>that I > > > >>> can have their spouse's name, and the spouse birthday, as well as > > > >>> children's > > > >>> names & children's birthdays. Right now I either have to put the > > > >>> birthdays > > > >>> into the calendar manually, or create a whole new contact, and since > > > >>> most of > > > >>> the information is exactly the same, addressess & phones, it is quite a > > > >>> chore. > > > >>> > > > >>> ---------------- > > > >>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the > > > >>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the > > > >>> "I > > > >>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow > > > >>> this > > > >>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and > > > >>> then > > > >>> click "I Agree" in the message pane. > > > >>> > > > >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?mid=c9d284a5-e463-46f8-9edb-a3b50aeb8682&dg=microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
From: rlp on 28 Jan 2010 17:23 because there are other uses for the data than just birthdays - why not just make the changes? "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: > Why is making an appointment not acceptable? You would need to enter the > same information into the contact form anyway. How many children's birthday > fields would be acceptable? > > http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2005/20050823.htm > > -- > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] > Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours > Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide) > Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide) > > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com > Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: > EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > > > "netbroad" <netbroad(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C9D284A5-E463-46F8-9EDB-A3B50AEB8682(a)microsoft.com... > >I would like to be able to add extra birthdays to one main contact, so that > >I > > can have their spouse's name, and the spouse birthday, as well as > > children's > > names & children's birthdays. Right now I either have to put the > > birthdays > > into the calendar manually, or create a whole new contact, and since most > > of > > the information is exactly the same, addressess & phones, it is quite a > > chore. > > > > ---------------- > > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the > > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I > > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow > > this > > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then > > click "I Agree" in the message pane. > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?mid=c9d284a5-e463-46f8-9edb-a3b50aeb8682&dg=microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring > > >
From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 28 Jan 2010 21:05 How many children fields does you think they should add? What is he "business case" for adding this number? Microsoft made the decision to not add a lot of extra fields for spouse and children birthdays. If you need them on the calendar, make the birthdays and link them to the parent's Contact. A CRM product (including BCM) is better suited for relationship management. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/ Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request(a)lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Poll: What version of Exchange server do you use? http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=33803 "rlp" <rlp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3137D866-64FA-4C8C-B6FD-0BB5E2C0F571(a)microsoft.com... > because there are other uses for the data than just birthdays - why not > just > make the changes? > > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: > >> Why is making an appointment not acceptable? You would need to enter the >> same information into the contact form anyway. How many children's >> birthday >> fields would be acceptable? >> >> http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2005/20050823.htm >> >> -- >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours >> Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide) >> Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide) >> >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >> Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >> >> >> "netbroad" <netbroad(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:C9D284A5-E463-46F8-9EDB-A3B50AEB8682(a)microsoft.com... >> >I would like to be able to add extra birthdays to one main contact, so >> >that >> >I >> > can have their spouse's name, and the spouse birthday, as well as >> > children's >> > names & children's birthdays. Right now I either have to put the >> > birthdays >> > into the calendar manually, or create a whole new contact, and since >> > most >> > of >> > the information is exactly the same, addressess & phones, it is quite a >> > chore. >> > >> > ---------------- >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the >> > "I >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow >> > this >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and >> > then >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane. >> > >> > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?mid=c9d284a5-e463-46f8-9edb-a3b50aeb8682&dg=microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring >> >> >>
From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 28 Jan 2010 21:07 Nothing has changed or 2007 or 2010. If you want to see the age, you need to create a custom form - but it won't be in the subject field. http://www.outlook-tips.net/code/age_form.htm You could use this method if you want to see ages in the subject: http://www.outlook-tips.net/howto/countdown.htm -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/ Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request(a)lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Poll: What version of Exchange server do you use? http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=33803 "rlp" <rlp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:19FDDC8F-F75A-40E0-A620-FAA74D34CC11(a)microsoft.com... > I agree as well - there needs to be at least a field for the spouse's > birthday and kids as well. Moreover the age is important in the financial > planning business. > Perhaps this has been updated since the 2007 postings but we cant find it. > > "John." wrote: > >> I would agree with the original poster. However one thing that is also a >> pain >> doing it this way is that even though the birthday is in the calendar and >> linked to the main contact - which is OK for me, I would really like to >> see >> birthday age showing as it would if it was a sole contact with the date >> entered correctly. >> >> If we set a calendar entry to "Birthday" it would be nice to have it >> display >> in the same way with the age showing - just add somewhere to put in the >> year >> of birth and it can do the rest. >> >> "shellig" wrote: >> >> > To answer your first response, making an appointment is unacceptable >> > because >> > you can have the problem I had where the link gets broken or the event >> > get >> > accidently deleted and you no longer have the actual date of the >> > child/spouse's birthday. >> > And to answer kj...contacts is like an address book. When a child >> > moves out >> > of the home, I create a contact for them, not before...so I would never >> > have >> > grandchildren listed...I would make a note that the child is connected >> > (and >> > link if possible) and remove that child's birthdate so it doesn't show >> > up >> > twice... >> > I think it is better to HAVE this option and choose not to use it than >> > just >> > to say it is not useful. This has been asked for for years by Outlook >> > users!!! >> > >> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: >> > >> > > Separate contacts isn't necessary - and can be confusing (because you >> > > don't >> > > need a contact for the kids), but you can make separate events for >> > > members >> > > of the family and link them to one contact. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >> > > Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours >> > > Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide) >> > > Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide) >> > > >> > > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >> > > Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >> > > Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: >> > > EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >> > > >> > > >> > > "kj" <kj(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >> > > news:uUU0BOKyFHA.2848(a)TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> > > > What happens when a kid grows up, gets married, has a spouse of >> > > > his/her >> > > > own and then has kids? Should there be grandchildren and their >> > > > birthdays >> > > > too? Great-grandchildren, half brothers, sister in-laws? >> > > > >> > > > If you really want to track these individuals then they should be >> > > > separate >> > > > contacts. If you need to group them as descendants and antecedents >> > > > you >> > > > could always create your own family 'categories'. >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > /kj >> > > > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> > > > news:O1Y8zFKyFHA.2800(a)TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> > > >> Why is making an appointment not acceptable? You would need to >> > > >> enter the >> > > >> same information into the contact form anyway. How many children's >> > > >> birthday fields would be acceptable? >> > > >> >> > > >> http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2005/20050823.htm >> > > >> >> > > >> -- >> > > >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] >> > > >> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours >> > > >> Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide) >> > > >> Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide) >> > > >> >> > > >> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ >> > > >> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com >> > > >> Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: >> > > >> EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> "netbroad" <netbroad(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> > > >> news:C9D284A5-E463-46F8-9EDB-A3B50AEB8682(a)microsoft.com... >> > > >>>I would like to be able to add extra birthdays to one main >> > > >>>contact, so >> > > >>>that I >> > > >>> can have their spouse's name, and the spouse birthday, as well as >> > > >>> children's >> > > >>> names & children's birthdays. Right now I either have to put the >> > > >>> birthdays >> > > >>> into the calendar manually, or create a whole new contact, and >> > > >>> since >> > > >>> most of >> > > >>> the information is exactly the same, addressess & phones, it is >> > > >>> quite a >> > > >>> chore. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> ---------------- >> > > >>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds >> > > >>> to the >> > > >>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, >> > > >>> click the >> > > >>> "I >> > > >>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, >> > > >>> follow >> > > >>> this >> > > >>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader >> > > >>> and >> > > >>> then >> > > >>> click "I Agree" in the message pane. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?mid=c9d284a5-e463-46f8-9edb-a3b50aeb8682&dg=microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >
From: Gordon on 29 Jan 2010 07:46 "rlp" <rlp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:19FDDC8F-F75A-40E0-A620-FAA74D34CC11(a)microsoft.com... > I agree as well - there needs to be at least a field for the spouse's > birthday and kids as well. Moreover the age is important in the financial > planning business. Then as has been posted already - you need a CRM application. Outlook is NOT a CRM application and AFAIK never will be. It's a PIM. Why should changed be made to a successful application in order to deal with your (minority) needs?
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