P4P800 SE -- drivers for networking?
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From: Chris on 29 Jan 2006 17:53 Hi, I have just replaced the motherboard on my machine with a P4P800 SE. The existing Soltek motherboard crapped out after just over 2 years from new (conveniently out of warranty). Anyway, everything is running fine except for the networking. What I have is a Apple Mac that I use for all internet usage with an ethernet cable connected to the PC so I can transfer files. The PC worked via. a LAN connection in Windows 2000. As I understand, this is automatically configured the first time Windows boots up. The "detecting new hardware" dialog came up and told me that an ethernet controller was detected. So far so good. I then inserted the CD that came with the motherboard so that I could load the appropriate driver and Windows scanned through it to find the driver. Unfortunately the end result was that Windows said that it could not find any suitable driver ("what the f**k?"). I then went to the ASUS web site and downloaded what appeared to be the appropriate driver but still no go. Now this thing is supposed to have a Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit ethernet controller according to the manual, and indeed there is the ethernet port on the motherboard. The manual mentions that normally there is a hub connected to the port but in my case the cable is connected directly to the Macintosh computer and that worked fine before. I do not want to have to shell out and get a separate ethernet card! I'm sure I don't need to do that! So can anybody point me to the correct network drivers for this motherboard? Or tell me how you did it? Any help greatly appreciated. Regards, Chris
From: Paul on 29 Jan 2006 21:18 In article <nojunk-3001061153070001(a)203-109-160-79.dialup.ihug.co.nz>, nojunk(a)nojunk.com (Chris) wrote: > Hi, > > I have just replaced the motherboard on my machine with a P4P800 SE. The > existing Soltek motherboard crapped out after just over 2 years from new > (conveniently out of warranty). Anyway, everything is running fine except > for the networking. > > What I have is a Apple Mac that I use for all internet usage with an > ethernet cable connected to the PC so I can transfer files. The PC worked > via. a LAN connection in Windows 2000. As I understand, this is > automatically configured the first time Windows boots up. The "detecting > new hardware" dialog came up and told me that an ethernet controller was > detected. So far so good. I then inserted the CD that came with the > motherboard so that I could load the appropriate driver and Windows > scanned through it to find the driver. Unfortunately the end result was > that Windows said that it could not find any suitable driver ("what the > f**k?"). I then went to the ASUS web site and downloaded what appeared to > be the appropriate driver but still no go. > > Now this thing is supposed to have a Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit ethernet > controller according to the manual, and indeed there is the ethernet port > on the motherboard. The manual mentions that normally there is a hub > connected to the port but in my case the cable is connected directly to > the Macintosh computer and that worked fine before. I do not want to have > to shell out and get a separate ethernet card! I'm sure I don't need to > do that! > > So can anybody point me to the correct network drivers for this > motherboard? Or tell me how you did it? > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Chris Your manual should have a drawing of the motherboard, and you will see a 88E8001 drawn in the picture. The motherboard CD supports multiple motherboards, and when you insert the CD into the computer, autorun should bring up a dialog. Section 5.2.1 in the manual, shows a Marvell driver offered as the last menu item. Try installing that. Of the drivers, the motherboard CD might well have a 7.x version driver. Be aware that there was one bad driver from Marvell, something like 8.35.2.3 or so. That one will cause the machine to freeze at random times. Drivers earlier or later than that should be OK. http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-se/Marvell_7.zip There is one setting in the BIOS, "Onboard LAN" [Enabled], and that is the default. You might check that it is at that default value. The Gigabit Ethernet interface on your new board, will support the ability to roll the cable automatically. When connecting to your Mac, it won't matter whether you use a straight thru cable, or a crossover cable, it should still make the connection. To connect at gigabit rates, the cable should have eight wires, at 10/100BT only four are required. Paul
From: Chris on 29 Jan 2006 22:25 In article <nospam-2901062117100001(a)192.168.1.178>, nospam(a)needed.com (Paul) wrote: > > Your manual should have a drawing of the motherboard, and you > will see a 88E8001 drawn in the picture. > > The motherboard CD supports multiple motherboards, and when > you insert the CD into the computer, autorun should bring up > a dialog. Section 5.2.1 in the manual, shows a Marvell driver > offered as the last menu item. Try installing that. > > Of the drivers, the motherboard CD might well have a 7.x > version driver. Be aware that there was one bad driver from > Marvell, something like 8.35.2.3 or so. That one will cause > the machine to freeze at random times. Drivers earlier or > later than that should be OK. > > http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-se/Marvell_7.zip > > There is one setting in the BIOS, "Onboard LAN" [Enabled], > and that is the default. You might check that it is > at that default value. > > The Gigabit Ethernet interface on your new board, will > support the ability to roll the cable automatically. When > connecting to your Mac, it won't matter whether you use > a straight thru cable, or a crossover cable, it should > still make the connection. To connect at gigabit rates, > the cable should have eight wires, at 10/100BT only four > are required. > > Paul Paul, I checked in the BIOS and the on-board LAN is enabled but the onboard LAN boot ROM is disabled. What is the LAN boot ROM? Would enabling that make any difference? Presumably is is not strictly needed or else it would be enabled by default? I tried manually installing the Marvell driver but it did not work. I'll try downloading the driver from ASUS and see how that goes. Interestingly the support CD does not bring up the Marvell driver as a menu item so I don't know what is going on there because the motherboard definitely has the LAN chip. Chris
From: BigJim on 30 Jan 2006 00:15 what does the device manager say regarding network devices? \ "Chris" <nojunk(a)nojunk.com> wrote in message news:nojunk-3001061153070001(a)203-109-160-79.dialup.ihug.co.nz... > Hi, > > I have just replaced the motherboard on my machine with a P4P800 SE. The > existing Soltek motherboard crapped out after just over 2 years from new > (conveniently out of warranty). Anyway, everything is running fine except > for the networking. > > What I have is a Apple Mac that I use for all internet usage with an > ethernet cable connected to the PC so I can transfer files. The PC worked > via. a LAN connection in Windows 2000. As I understand, this is > automatically configured the first time Windows boots up. The "detecting > new hardware" dialog came up and told me that an ethernet controller was > detected. So far so good. I then inserted the CD that came with the > motherboard so that I could load the appropriate driver and Windows > scanned through it to find the driver. Unfortunately the end result was > that Windows said that it could not find any suitable driver ("what the > f**k?"). I then went to the ASUS web site and downloaded what appeared to > be the appropriate driver but still no go. > > Now this thing is supposed to have a Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit ethernet > controller according to the manual, and indeed there is the ethernet port > on the motherboard. The manual mentions that normally there is a hub > connected to the port but in my case the cable is connected directly to > the Macintosh computer and that worked fine before. I do not want to have > to shell out and get a separate ethernet card! I'm sure I don't need to > do that! > > So can anybody point me to the correct network drivers for this > motherboard? Or tell me how you did it? > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Chris
From: Paul on 30 Jan 2006 01:48 In article <nojunk-3001061625360001(a)203-109-160-79.dialup.ihug.co.nz>, nojunk(a)nojunk.com (Chris) wrote: > In article <nospam-2901062117100001(a)192.168.1.178>, nospam(a)needed.com > (Paul) wrote: > > > > Your manual should have a drawing of the motherboard, and you > > will see a 88E8001 drawn in the picture. > > > > The motherboard CD supports multiple motherboards, and when > > you insert the CD into the computer, autorun should bring up > > a dialog. Section 5.2.1 in the manual, shows a Marvell driver > > offered as the last menu item. Try installing that. > > > > Of the drivers, the motherboard CD might well have a 7.x > > version driver. Be aware that there was one bad driver from > > Marvell, something like 8.35.2.3 or so. That one will cause > > the machine to freeze at random times. Drivers earlier or > > later than that should be OK. > > > > http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-se/Marvell_7.zip > > > > There is one setting in the BIOS, "Onboard LAN" [Enabled], > > and that is the default. You might check that it is > > at that default value. > > > > The Gigabit Ethernet interface on your new board, will > > support the ability to roll the cable automatically. When > > connecting to your Mac, it won't matter whether you use > > a straight thru cable, or a crossover cable, it should > > still make the connection. To connect at gigabit rates, > > the cable should have eight wires, at 10/100BT only four > > are required. > > > > Paul > Paul, > > I checked in the BIOS and the on-board LAN is enabled but the onboard LAN > boot ROM is disabled. What is the LAN boot ROM? Would enabling that make > any difference? Presumably is is not strictly needed or else it would be > enabled by default? > > I tried manually installing the Marvell driver but it did not work. I'll > try downloading the driver from ASUS and see how that goes. Interestingly > the support CD does not bring up the Marvell driver as a menu item so I > don't know what is going on there because the motherboard definitely has > the LAN chip. > > Chris That could mean the autorun thing has checked the motherboard identity and it doesn't match the set of motherboards the CD was prepared for. Is this a new board, or a refurb ? What are the odds it has been forced flashed with some other motherboard BIOS ? (Does it even say P4P800 SE in white letters on the motherboard ? Do you see the Marvell chip over near the LAN connector stack ?) Even with all of that, if the Marvell chip is truly enabled (and it might not be if a foreign BIOS is loaded), then the installer for the Marvell chip should work. The boot ROM option only registers the LAN as a net boot device, so if you were booting the computer from some other machine, the Ethernet interface could be used for that. The ROM option shouldn't prevent the driver from being installed, so whether enabled or disabled, shouldn't stop the driver installer from working. If it was my motherboard, I'd probably start by making an archival copy of the BIOS in the flash chip. The manual should explain several methods for flashing the BIOS, and one of the tools used should have an option to copy the file in the flash onto a floppy. With the flash file in hand, some identity info for the flash file is right among the last few bytes of the file. A hex editor can be used to look at the last part of the file and see what BIOS was used to flash the board. This method doesn't guarantee that someone didn't use a hacked BIOS on the board, but it will give you some idea as to what BIOS is in there. (You can also look at the paper label stuck on the flash chip, and compare to the info from the file, as a way of seeing if the board has been flashed after it left the factory.) What is printed on the screen can also contain unique info, so during POST have a look at the screen for any identity strings. (A sample BIOS screen during POST) http://www.highspheres.com/products/wakemeup/images/bios_post.jpg This is an example of the text strings in the last 80 bytes of a BIOS file I have here. P4C800EDROM P4CED106 06/20/05 At least the first string tells me the BIOS file was P4C800ED.ROM . The date of release is probably a lot more reliable piece of info in the file, than any other release numbers. At least some tools that are supposed to extract version numbers, get the same number for two different BIOS files, which is not a good thing. Could it be a dead chip ? Sure. But the failure is just as likely to be a problem with the BIOS image flashed into the board not enabling the Marvell chip. One thing you could try is clearing the CMOS (unplug the computer before following the procedure in the manual). When the computer POSTs after you do the procedure, go into the BIOS and "Load Setup Defaults" or whatever the equivalent option is in your BIOS. That should reload sane options for the BIOS settings. Since the LAN chip is enabled by default, is should be enabled by the Load Setup Defaults. Then see if anything has changed at the OS level. Paul
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