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From: Arfa Daily on 18 Jun 2010 06:55


"Phil Allison" <phil_a(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:8802ohFn3bU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>
> "Adrian C"
>> Phil Allison
>>>
>>>> ** Why on earth would a unit like that have to be PAT tested ????
>>>
>>>> No requirement exists here in Australia for low risk items used in non
>>>> hazardous work environments to be regularly tested.
>>>
>>
>> Nope. It's 5 Years in an "Environment where the equipment or supply cord
>> is NOT subject to flexing in normal use and is NOT open to abuse and is
>> NOT in a hostile environment"
>>
>> Australia PAT testing (they call it 'test and tag') does looks fairly
>> similar, if not the same to the UK.
>
>
> ** This guide from WorkCover NSW makes it CLEAR that there is NO testing
> needed in this example.
>
> http://www.workcover.nsw.gov.au/formspublications/publications/Documents/competent_person_testing_tagging_electrical_equipment_1336.pdf
>
> See item 7: " How often should I 'test and tag' my electrical equipment.
> "
>
> " For all other workplaces, the inspection and testing intervals are
> described in the standard, AS/NZS 3760 but ONLY need be applied to
> electrical equipment that has been assessed as operating in a hostile
> operating environment as described in clause 64 of the OHS Regulation."
>
> BTW:
>
> The issue here is PAT testing, I have no argument that regular visual
> inspections for damage or deterioration etc are needed under the OHS laws
> here.
>
>
> .... Phil
>

Agreed

Arfa

From: JW on 18 Jun 2010 08:04
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:39:54 -0400 Tim Schwartz <tim(a)bristolnj.com> wrote
in Message id: <4C1B5B0A.9060908(a)bristolnj.com>:

>On 6/17/2010 4:20 AM, Arfa Daily wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Phil Allison" <phil_a(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:87tl0lFm1qU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Arfa Daily"
>>>
>>> re: JVC midi size hi-fi system.
>>>
>>>> I would be interested in knowing if I'm on my own on this one, or if
>>>> anybody else involved professionally in service work - or indeed
>>>> anyone who carries out PAT testing - has any similar experience, or
>>>> opinions on this.
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Why on earth would a unit like that have to be PAT tested ????
>>>
>>> No requirement exists here in Australia for low risk items used in non
>>> hazardous work environments to be regularly tested.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .... Phil
>>>
>>
>> Well, to some extent, this is my point. I'm no expert on the regs, and
>> it's my feeling that items such as this should not be subject to the
>> high voltage tests for the very reasons that I suspect that it may cause
>> damage to them. Possibly, they are not strictly speaking required to be
>> tested, but several of the places that I do work for, have local
>> authority customers, so care homes, schools, that sort of thing, and
>> every item that I see from such establishments - including fully plastic
>> cased boom-boxes - always has a "tested" sticker on it, with a date for
>> the next test, so it's my belief that a shotgun approach for every item
>> that runs off the mains, and is not bolted down, is being applied. And
>> probably by the general maintenance man, who just has an automatic
>> tester as part of his kit box, and a general mandate to use it ...
>>
>> Arfa
>
>Hello,
>
> As someone in the USA who has no idea of what you are speaking of,
>could you enlighten me as to what a PAT (particularly annoying
>test?)test is? Is it required of consumer goods?

First hit on Google. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAT_Testing
From: Cydrome Leader on 18 Jun 2010 11:55
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Arfa Daily wrote:
>>
>> Yep, I'm sure that where we've been, you boys in the U.S. won't be far
>> behind, although in the case of such things as health and safety, the green
>> mist, the supposed hazards of lead, and belief in the dogma of global
>> warming (with the possible exception of Al Gore), you seem to maintain a
>> proud and dogged resistance to being dragged in. I wish that the people and
>> powers of Europe in general, and the UK in particular, had a similar point
>> of view ... :-(
>
>
> It's time for the European pheasants to gather pitchforks and burning
> torches, for an all out assult on Brussels. Don't bother to pack a

brussels already looks burned down. bring wrecking balls and bulldozers
and just till that place back into the ground.
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