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From: teknowbabble on 22 Sep 2006 14:54
I found this cool computer laying next to a dumpster in my apartment
complex. That should have been my first clue. But oooooooooh
nooooooooo, I had to pick it up and open Pandora's Box. I think I
released some Trapped Demons inside because this baby is taking me for
a wild ride into Hells Kitchen.

Is there a 12-step group for Hardware Geeks that cant say NO!

Ive burned the midnight oil trying to figure out how to stabilize this
BEAST!

I wont Rest until the the boot is as smooth as glass and all l can hear
is the quite hum of bearingless fans.

PROBLEMS:

- Computer Locks-Up after about 20+ minutes of operation. The system
loads up fine and operates fine and then just hangs. I cant do
Control-Alt-Delete and power ON/OFF switch doesnt work. Sometimes the
cursor still works but I cant select anything. I have to RESET the
computer to Re-Boot.

-->SPECIAL NOTE<--
Just before the system hangs, I HEAR A CLICK. I havent a clue what it
is. It happens most of the time but not always. Ive swapped out power
supplies and modem cards. I cant think of anything else that would make
a click in my system except for the main hard drive which I havent
tried yet.

- Lately Ive been getting an exception error during operation

"an exception 0E has occurred at 0028:C0031A54 in VXD---. This was
called from 0028:C00301F9 in VXD---. It may be possible to continue
normally"

I havent had this before. I used CCleaner, and may have messed with
some Registry files so I will use the Registry Checker to reinstall
them. Maybe Ive got BAD RAM? I dont know?

- I also have problems running SISOFT SANDRA 2004 SP2 and AVG 7
Antivirus software. Sometimes the system just hangs or spits out an
error. Also SCREEN SAVER is now creating system faults.

Things seem to be getting progressively worse.

Any help is appreciated.

Ive included the MOBO Manufactures Information, SISOFT SANDRA Runs, and
a HIJACKTHIS Log.

Teknowbabble


THINGS I HAVE TRIED:
- Installed latest Bios and System Drivers
- Swapped out Power Supply
- Upgraded Memory from 32 MB to 128 MB
- Installed 32 MB Video Card to Take the pressure off the Onboard
Graphics
- Swapped out PCI Modem Cards


*** Setup ***

TOSHIBA V3100 SYSTEM
MicroATX Mother Board
200W Power Supply (original was a 150W)
CPU: Intel Celeron 366 mhz
Motherboard: GVC/BCM IN810P
Chipset: Intel 810E
128 MB RAM = 2 x 64 MB
Windows 98
Video Board: Nvidia gforce 400 MX 32 MB
2 Hard Drives: C drive 6 GB Maxtor, D drive 4 GB Maxtor
Dual Boot Setup with GRUB;
--> C drive Windows 98, D drive Debian Linux
--> Both Drives hooked up to Maxtor IDE ATA/100 PCI interface Card
(Cable Select JMP'ers set on both drives)
Generic 1.44 MB Floppy Drive
ASUS CD Rom Drive
Agere Systems 56.6K Modem PCI Card


*** BCM Motherboard (Company information) ***
IN810P
CPU: CPU speed/voltage support may be dependant upon motherboard/BIOS
revision
233MHz-850MHz
Intel Celeron and Pentium III
Intel Socket 370 For CPU

System Chipset:
Intel 810 Chipset
66/100 FSB
Winbond W83627HF-AW I/O Controller

Cache Memory:
Integrated in the CPU

Intel AGP Graphics:
3D 64bit 133Mhz AGP
2-11 MB Dynamic UMA memory architecture

On-Board Sound:
ADI soft sound codec

Wake On LAN:
Remote Wake-Up of computer through a network.

System Memory:
2 x 168 pin DIMM sockets, support 32MB minimum and up to 512MB maximum
Supports 32, 64, 128 and 256MB SDRAM DIMM using 16/64/128Mb technology

On Board PCI IDE:
2 X PCI Bus Master IDE Ports (Up to 4 IDE Devices)
Support PIO Mode 0, 1, 2, 3
Supports Enhanced IDE PIO mode 3 and 4, 17MB/sec. (Max.)
Support UDMA Mode 66MB/sec. (Max.)

On board I/O:
1 Floppy Port (up to 2.88 MB)
1 Parallel Port (ECP, EPP)
2 Serial Ports (16C550 Fast UART Compatible) with FIFO's, Plug & Play
1 PS/2 Keyboard Port
1 PS/2 Mouse Header
2 Standard USB Ports (48MHz) Supports up to 127 USB Devices
Consumer IR and IrDA interface

BIOS:
4M-bit Flash EPROM
AMI BIOS with Green and PnP Function
IDE Auto-configuring
PC97/98 Ready
ACPI Compliant
DMI Support
Instant-On

Expansion Slots:
1 AMR Slot
3 PCI Slots
1 DFP Slots

Form Factor:
Micro ATX form factor
Board size: 8.625" x 9.625"


**** SISOFT SANDRA 2004 SP2 SYSTEM SCAN ***

SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : Compaq <--- Not Sure Why Sisoft thinks this is a Compaq?
The case says Toshiba
Host Name : xxxxx
User : xxxxx

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Celeron(tm)
Speed : 376MHz
Performance Rating : PR451 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 128kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (4-way, 32 byte
line size)

Mainboard
Bus(es) : PCI USB i2c/SMBus
MP Support : No
MP APIC : No
System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. IN810P BIOS Ver: 1.05
System : IBM 2276
Mainboard : INTEL WHITNEY
Total Memory : 126MB SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : GVC/BCM Advanced Research 82810E 810e Host-Hub Interface and
Memory Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 68MHz (68MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 128MB SDRAM
Shared Memory : 1MB

Video System
Monitor/Panel : CTX 1451
Adapter : Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400

Physical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : Maxtor 9 0680D4
Hard Disk : Maxtor 9 0320D2
Hard Disk : GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK
CD-ROM/DVD : ASUS CD-S400/A

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : 1MB (1MB, 100% Free) (FAT)
Hard Disk (C:) : 6.3GB (3.9GB, 62% Free) (FAT32)
My disc (D:) : 8MB (0MB, 0% Free) (CDFS)

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Intel 82801AA USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Gameport Joystick
Device : MPU-401 Compatible
Device : SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
Device : Wave Device for Voice Modem
Device : Microsoft Kernel System Renderer
Device : Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer
Device : Microsoft Kernel Audio Mixer
Device : Microsoft DirectMusic SW Synth (WDM)

Communication Device(s)
Device : Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem

Printers and Faxes
Model : MightyFAX Printer Driver
Model : MS Publisher Color Printer
Model : MS Publisher Imagesetter

Power Management
AC Line Status : On-Line

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 98 (Win32 x86) 4.10.2222 ( A )
DOS System : Microsoft MS-DOS Version 7.10 A

Network Services
Adapter : Dial-Up Adapter


**
From: johns on 22 Sep 2006 18:12

That click is the hard drive head retraction to re-zero
itself. You have a bad spot(s) on the hard drive.

johns

From: teknowbabble on 22 Sep 2006 18:14
I think I solved at least one problem.

AVG 7, my anti-virus program, seems to be the culprit as far as making
my system hang. I found out because I had no problems when I was in
safe-mode. I noticed that AVG did not load up so I decided to unselect
it during my startup through msconfig.

Now I can run Sisoft Sandra 2004 as well. I think AVG 7 is just a
little too bloated for Windows 98SE.

Now I have to find a smaller size anti-virus program.

The one thing that is still giving me a headache is that my system says
it has performed an illegal operation when the screen-saver is
activated.

I have a 32 MB Nvidia card which seems to work well as far as I can
tell. Maybe I need to reload Windows 98 because the screen saver files
are corrupt.

Hopefully thats the problem. Got any Ideas let me know.

Teknowbabble


******** Good Advice I found off the Internet **********

DRAM wait-state incorrect -
Try changing the BIOS/CMOS DRAM wait-state settings to "Normal" if this
value is not set to that.

USB Port -
Can be related to having a USB port installed on a computer but not
having the USB software. Look for a file called USBSUPP.EXE on your
windows CD and install it to fix the error.

possible corrupt files -
Reinstall system files or the Windows program.

Norton Anti-Virus related - see Microsoft KB article Q189655.
It can occur if an older version of a Symantec program (such as Norton
AntiVirus) is installed. To resolve this issue, disable the Symantec
Symevnt.386 file as describe in the KB article Link above.

*****************************************************************

From: meow2222 on 22 Sep 2006 19:00
teknowbabble(a)yahoo.com wrote:

> I found this cool computer laying next to a dumpster in my apartment
> complex. That should have been my first clue. But oooooooooh
> nooooooooo, I had to pick it up and open Pandora's Box. I think I
> released some Trapped Demons inside because this baby is taking me for
> a wild ride into Hells Kitchen.


Before you do anything else, have you formatted the drives and
reinstalled 98se? If not, really youre wasting your time. If you
already have, then...


Have you checked the temps of cpu and case? More reliable to check with
a hand than rely on mobo readings, which can occasionally be wrong.

RAM: test overnight with Memtest86 flopy.

AVG is solid on 98, and one of the less bloated choices. Maybe
reinstall it, but if AVG wont run I'd be pretty sure the problem is OS
rather than AVG.

Why have you got a screen saver running? Thyre an obsolete technology
that waste power, shorten monitor life and do nothing of any use. They
had 2 valid uses once but things have come a long way since then.

HDD surface scans might be in order in the circumstances.


NT

From: paulmd@efn.org on 22 Sep 2006 22:05

teknowbabble(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> I found this cool computer laying next to a dumpster in my apartment
> complex. That should have been my first clue. But oooooooooh
> nooooooooo, I had to pick it up and open Pandora's Box. I think I
> released some Trapped Demons inside because this baby is taking me for
> a wild ride into Hells Kitchen.
>
> Is there a 12-step group for Hardware Geeks that cant say NO!

Rule number 1 in dealing with a basketcase

Open it up and check for bad capicitors. If any are bulging or leaking,
you can save yourself a lot of effort by realising that the motherboard
is shot. And your only hope is to replace all the bad caps with good
ones, or replace the whole motherboard.

Rule 2 : Blow out the dust and check the mechanics.

Rule 3: Wipe the original OS. Don't even look, it's evil. Its' either a
virus monster, or otherwise screwed up.

dban from dban.sourceforge.net is a good wiping tool

Rule 4: DIAGNOSTICS

memtest86+ from www.memtest.org
MHDD from http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/
not much to do about video but to swap with Known Good

rule 5 Strip to BARE minimun

If it's not one of the big 4 components, it's somenhing else. Remove
EVERYTHING you can, go into the BIOS to disable an much as possible.

If it's not stable even then, toss it. If you get stability, re-enable
stuff until it crashes again.

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