From: Bill Penrose on
On Jul 4, 6:51 pm, j...(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics use...(a)mantra.com wrote:
> > 'Petrol made from CO2' soon
>
> Sounds great if you want $50/gal gasoline.

Come back in 40 years and you'll be happy to pay $50/gal.

DB


From: jimp on
Bill Penrose <dangerousbill(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 6:51 pm, j...(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics use...(a)mantra.com wrote:
>> > 'Petrol made from CO2' soon
>>
>> Sounds great if you want $50/gal gasoline.
>
> Come back in 40 years and you'll be happy to pay $50/gal.
>
> DB

Yeah, right.

Neglecting inflation, it is never going to happen.

If gasoline cost that much, no one would buy it, which means no one would
make it.


--
Jim Pennino

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From: Ben Newsam on
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 21:34:02 -0000, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>Bill Penrose <dangerousbill(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 6:51�pm, j...(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics use...(a)mantra.com wrote:
>>> > 'Petrol made from CO2' soon
>>>
>>> Sounds great if you want $50/gal gasoline.
>>
>> Come back in 40 years and you'll be happy to pay $50/gal.
>>
>> DB
>
>Yeah, right.
>
>Neglecting inflation, it is never going to happen.
>
>If gasoline cost that much, no one would buy it, which means no one would
>make it.

Over here ------->, a litre of fuel costs about �1.20

�1.20 is about $1.82 in Leftpondian money

One of your puny US gallons is 3.78541178 litres (ours are 4.54609188
litres)

So, we are already paying nearly $7 per US gallon over here and I
haven't noticed cars going out of fashion yet.
From: jimp on
Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 21:34:02 -0000, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>Bill Penrose <dangerousbill(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jul 4, 6:51 pm, j...(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics use...(a)mantra.com wrote:
>>>> > 'Petrol made from CO2' soon
>>>>
>>>> Sounds great if you want $50/gal gasoline.
>>>
>>> Come back in 40 years and you'll be happy to pay $50/gal.
>>>
>>> DB
>>
>>Yeah, right.
>>
>>Neglecting inflation, it is never going to happen.
>>
>>If gasoline cost that much, no one would buy it, which means no one would
>>make it.
>
> Over here ------->, a litre of fuel costs about £1.20
>
> £1.20 is about $1.82 in Leftpondian money
>
> One of your puny US gallons is 3.78541178 litres (ours are 4.54609188
> litres)
>
> So, we are already paying nearly $7 per US gallon over here and I
> haven't noticed cars going out of fashion yet.

$7 << $50

Your price for gasoline has little to nothing to do with the cost of gasoline
and a lot to do with allowing your government to spin out of control.



--
Jim Pennino

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From: David on
On Jul 4, 8:40 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> 'Petrol made from CO2' soon
>
> PTI
> The Pioneer
> Monday, July 5, 2010
>
> London - Scientists are inching closer to produce a new fuel from
> carbon dioxide and sunlight which they claim will help meet world's
> energy needs and minimise carbon emissions.
>
> A team at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, is
> developing the technique which will produce "synthetic liquid fuels"
> in solar-powered reactors.
>
> Experiments have also shown that the reactors can absorb carbon
> dioxide (CO2) and turn it into carbon monoxide. The same reactors can
> also be used to turn water into hydrogen and oxygen.
>
> The two can then be reacted together with a catalyst to form
> hydrocarbon fuels, in a technique known as the "Fischer-Tropsch"
> process.
>
> According to the researchers, fuels made in this way are sufficiently
> similar to those currently used in cars, and major redesigns of
> engines and refuelling stations is not necessary, New Scientist
> reported.
>
> This innovative fuel production techniques could inch motor vehicles
> towards carbon neutrality, it said.Ken
>
> Caldeira of the Carnegie Institution of Washington at Stanford
> University, California, said that creating usable fuel from solar
> energy is a promising way of keeping the world's energy demands
> satisfied while minimising carbon emissions.
>
> "This area holds out the promise for technologies that can produce
> large amounts of carbon-neutral power at affordable prices, which can
> be used where and when that power is needed," he said.
>
> "It is one of the few technology areas that could truly revolutionise
> our energy future." The Sandia team has created a machine called the
> "Counter Rotating Ring Receiver Reactor Recuperator (CR5)", which
> captures carbon dioxide from power plant exhaust fumes.
>
> In future, however, they hope to use CO2 extracted directly from the
> air, although they are not developing their own carbon-capture
> technique to do so.
>
> "That is a huge challenge in itself, and we opted to focus on one
> hard problem at a time," says James Miller, a combustion chemist at
> Sandia.
>
> The system uses a giant parabolic mirror, which concentrates sunlight
> on to two chambers separated by spinning rings of cerium oxide.
>
> As the rings turn, the cerium oxide is heated to 1500C and releases
> oxygen into one of the chambers. The oxygen is then pumped away.
>
> As the ring spins, the now de-oxidised cerium moves into the other
> chamber. Carbon dioxide is pumped in, and the deoxidised cerium
> steals one of the oxygen molecules, creating carbon monoxide and
> cerium oxide.
>
> The team is now working to improve reliability while building a
> bigger reactor with 28 rotating rings. "That will enable it to
> process more CO2 and water," says Miller.
>
> http://dailypioneer.com/267043/%E2%80%98Petrol-made-from-CO2%E2%80%99...
>
> More at:http://www.dailypioneer.com
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
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Is this new??? Plants are doing this all the time and they don't need
sophistacted reactors....

David
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