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From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 31 May 2010 11:28
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Tom Lane wrote:

> I find myself entirely unimpressed by proposals to make releases
> according to some rigid schedule that takes no account of whether
> packaging manpower is actually available.

How many beta testers out there *rely* on a package to do their testing?
I'm not saying don't try and get packages in place, I'm just saying it
shouldn't be a requirement to stamp code BETA and create a tar ball ...

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From: Bruce Momjian on 31 May 2010 11:30
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2010, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> > I find myself entirely unimpressed by proposals to make releases
> > according to some rigid schedule that takes no account of whether
> > packaging manpower is actually available.
>
> How many beta testers out there *rely* on a package to do their testing?
> I'm not saying don't try and get packages in place, I'm just saying it
> shouldn't be a requirement to stamp code BETA and create a tar ball ...

Well, they can just grab nightly snapshots and test, right? I don't
think a beta is fundamentally different from a nightly snapshot,
source-code wise.

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From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 31 May 2010 11:34
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2010, Tom Lane wrote:
>>
>>> I find myself entirely unimpressed by proposals to make releases
>>> according to some rigid schedule that takes no account of whether
>>> packaging manpower is actually available.
>>
>> How many beta testers out there *rely* on a package to do their testing?
>> I'm not saying don't try and get packages in place, I'm just saying it
>> shouldn't be a requirement to stamp code BETA and create a tar ball ...
>
> Well, they can just grab nightly snapshots and test, right? I don't
> think a beta is fundamentally different from a nightly snapshot,
> source-code wise.

doesn't really give a good reference point for testing purposes ... if
everyone downloads BETA2 and tests, they are all testing the exact same
code ...

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From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 31 May 2010 11:35
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote:

> My guess would be "most of them".

Do we not have any stats on # of beta downloads per package type? I use
FreeBSD ports when installing production, but when testing non-released
code, I generally use the source code itself and build ...

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From: Magnus Hagander on 31 May 2010 11:39
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy(a)hub.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
>> My guess would be "most of them".
>
> Do we not have any stats on # of beta downloads per package type?  I use FreeBSD ports when installing production, but when testing non-released code, I generally use the source code itself and build ...

No. Most packages don't come off the postgresql.org servers - they
come out of the yum repositories, the deb repositories or the edb
download servers (windows).


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