From: Svyatoslav Lempert on
Hello!

We have problems for a considerable quantity of users which are linked
to upgrade of major version PHP 5.2 to version 5.3 in port lang/php5
They are linked to considerable incompatibility of old scripts which
should are corrected and rewrited for correct work under PHP 5.3.2.

Also rather a significant amount of commercial scripts used coding by
Zend Optimizer, and this software does not exist for PHP 5.3 and if
it will be updated by developers only in the last queue (after
upgrades for windows and linux-systems) as has the limited support for
FreeBSD

Please, do not break FreeBSD system as a stable platform for PHP web-hosting.

See this topic http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=13240
Patch published by lissyara create lang/php52 and all other
php52-structure. Please include this port to ports tree, I tested this
script, it works and intall PHP 5.2.12 via ports without problems.

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From: Guido Falsi on
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:23:15AM +0900, Svyatoslav Lempert wrote:
> Hello!
>
> We have problems for a considerable quantity of users which are linked
> to upgrade of major version PHP 5.2 to version 5.3 in port lang/php5
> They are linked to considerable incompatibility of old scripts which
> should are corrected and rewrited for correct work under PHP 5.3.2.

Can't you just downgrade the php port to the previous version?

If you use any of the port management tools t update them you can
configure them to ignore the php ports as long as your users still
have not updated their apps for the new php version(but such a
condiscending attitude toward users will slow down such migration
indefinitely, at least that's what happens usually with users).

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From: Micheas Herman on
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 12:09 +0200, Guido Falsi wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:23:15AM +0900, Svyatoslav Lempert wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > We have problems for a considerable quantity of users which are linked
> > to upgrade of major version PHP 5.2 to version 5.3 in port lang/php5
> > They are linked to considerable incompatibility of old scripts which
> > should are corrected and rewrited for correct work under PHP 5.3.2.
>
> Can't you just downgrade the php port to the previous version?

That isn't really completely viable as there would then be no
upgrade path to php 5.2.14 php, 5.2.13 was released in February
of 2010 and is a security update to the 5.2.X line of php and
based on past history I would expect 5.2.17 to be released.

Some webapps are not going to be compatible with 5.3 for at
least another 6 months maybe even 18 months.

CiviCRM is not going to be compatible with 5.3 until the 3.2
branch is released some time this summer, which means a lot of
Drupal and Joomla sites are not going to be able to upgrade to
5.3 until then.

>
> If you use any of the port management tools t update them you can
> configure them to ignore the php ports as long as your users still
> have not updated their apps for the new php version(but such a
> condiscending attitude toward users will slow down such migration
> indefinitely, at least that's what happens usually with users).

But, also may leave servers unnecessarily exposed to security
vulnerabilities.

Personally, I see greater demand for php52 than php6 which does
have a port.

>
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From: Guido Falsi on
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 03:43:14AM -0700, Micheas Herman wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 12:09 +0200, Guido Falsi wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:23:15AM +0900, Svyatoslav Lempert wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > We have problems for a considerable quantity of users which are linked
> > > to upgrade of major version PHP 5.2 to version 5.3 in port lang/php5
> > > They are linked to considerable incompatibility of old scripts which
> > > should are corrected and rewrited for correct work under PHP 5.3.2.
> >
> > Can't you just downgrade the php port to the previous version?
>
> That isn't really completely viable as there would then be no
> upgrade path to php 5.2.14 php, 5.2.13 was released in February
> of 2010 and is a security update to the 5.2.X line of php and
> based on past history I would expect 5.2.17 to be released.

The maintainer of the php ports has already stated that maintaining the
php port framework is a considerable burdern.

I'm not him. I'm quite happy with the presenty situation since I
run very few php webapps written by others(and various smallish
ones written by myself). I can't really comment on his decisions.
FreeBSD being a voluntary work effort he has the right to do whatever
he likes.

If you really need this you could try creating the needed ports. Basing
your effort on the old verion of the existing ones should give you a
good headstart.

I really don't see any option from you. Anything that is in FreeBSD is
there because some interested party made it happen.

This is true for BASD since it's original conception at the Berkeley
University in 1977(from the history I've studied at last).

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From: Alex Keda on
14.04.2010 16:15, Guido Falsi пишет:
> The maintainer of the php ports has already stated that maintaining the
> php port framework is a considerable burdern.
>
> I'm not him. I'm quite happy with the presenty situation since I
> run very few php webapps written by others(and various smallish
> ones written by myself). I can't really comment on his decisions.
> FreeBSD being a voluntary work effort he has the right to do whatever
> he likes.
>
> If you really need this you could try creating the needed ports. Basing
> your effort on the old verion of the existing ones should give you a
> good headstart.
>
> I really don't see any option from you. Anything that is in FreeBSD is
> there because some interested party made it happen.
>
> This is true for BASD since it's original conception at the Berkeley
> University in 1977(from the history I've studied at last).

so many people want php5.2 in ports.
I am ready to support this set of ports.
but ale@ does not respond to my letters =)
=========
I do not really important - it will take to the ports tree or not, I
will in any case, I will support this patchset, but if it does not take
it, I modify it to what is needed specifically for me, but not all
(adding to it png1.2, Zend3.3.9 ....)
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