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From: Gergely CZUCZY on 2 Dec 2009 08:19 On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:13:54 +0100 Martin Wilke <miwi(a)FreeBSD.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 01:55:51AM +0200, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > > Update instructions (choose one of them): > > > > > > 1) remove all php ports and all ports that depends on php, > > > then reinstall your the php applications > > > > > > 2) deinstall the removed ports, > > > then upgrade recursively the lang/php5 port > > > > > > > > > To apply the patch (to a fresh ports tree): > > > > > > cd /usr/ports && patch -p0 -E ~/php53.diff > > > > > > > > > Note: Zend decided to not support FreeBSD anymore, so a new > > > ZendOptimizer release for php 5.3 will never be released. > > > > Hmm... Wouldn't then be better to keep PHP 5.2 available in > > ports (e.g. lang/php52)? Not only for the sake of FreeBSD-based > > WEB-servers with ZendOptimizer port installed - I suspect there > > could be other reasons to stay with PHP 5.2 while it's still > > available... > > > > - From the Security site you should not hold 5.2X Oh come on. Security-wise you shouldn't hold php at all. It's about backwards incompatibility, not about security. > > - - Martin > > > > Sincerely, Dmitry > > -- > > nic-hdl: LYNX-RIPE > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org" > > > > - -- > > +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ > | PGP : 0xB1E6FCE9 | Jabber : miwi(at)BSDCrew.de | > | Skype : splash_111 | Mail : miwi(at)FreeBSD.org | > +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ > | Mess with the Best, Die like the Rest! | > +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAksWWgEACgkQdLJIhLHm/OkUNACeOuvNIikaI/r19St7s/dyQ7Sn > Kx8An3ZOS7BueqSMHYfxxyERE+rzoZgz > =vZdB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org" -- Sincerely, Gergely CZUCZY Harmless Digital Bt +36-30-9702963 _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Alex Dupre on 2 Dec 2009 08:52 Gergely CZUCZY ha scritto: >> Oh come on. Security-wise you shouldn't hold php at all. It's about >> backwards incompatibility, not about security. PHP 5.3 is not more incompatible with 5.2 than 5.2 was with 5.1 (and 5.1 with 5.0). 5.2 branch will be dropped in near future, so I'm not going to maintain 80 (eighty) additional ports just for fun. I can delay a little more (a few weeks), but eventually it'll happen. My original message has to be intended as a call for tester. -- Alex Dupre _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Martin Wilke on 2 Dec 2009 08:53 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:19:02PM +0100, Gergely CZUCZY wrote: > On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:13:54 +0100 > Martin Wilke <miwi(a)FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 01:55:51AM +0200, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > Update instructions (choose one of them): > > > > > > > > 1) remove all php ports and all ports that depends on php, > > > > then reinstall your the php applications > > > > > > > > 2) deinstall the removed ports, > > > > then upgrade recursively the lang/php5 port > > > > > > > > > > > > To apply the patch (to a fresh ports tree): > > > > > > > > cd /usr/ports && patch -p0 -E ~/php53.diff > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: Zend decided to not support FreeBSD anymore, so a new > > > > ZendOptimizer release for php 5.3 will never be released. > > > > > > Hmm... Wouldn't then be better to keep PHP 5.2 available in > > > ports (e.g. lang/php52)? Not only for the sake of FreeBSD-based > > > WEB-servers with ZendOptimizer port installed - I suspect there > > > could be other reasons to stay with PHP 5.2 while it's still > > > available... > > > > > > > - From the Security site you should not hold 5.2X > Oh come on. Security-wise you shouldn't hold php at all. It's about > backwards incompatibility, not about security. That's your risk. But Bernhard Froehlich told me already there is a 5.2.12RC3 avalibel :) - - Martin > > > > > - - Martin > > > > > > Sincerely, Dmitry > > > -- > > > nic-hdl: LYNX-RIPE > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org" > > > > > > > - -- > > > > +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ > > | PGP : 0xB1E6FCE9 | Jabber : miwi(at)BSDCrew.de | > > | Skype : splash_111 | Mail : miwi(at)FreeBSD.org | > > +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ > > | Mess with the Best, Die like the Rest! | > > +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAksWWgEACgkQdLJIhLHm/OkUNACeOuvNIikaI/r19St7s/dyQ7Sn > > Kx8An3ZOS7BueqSMHYfxxyERE+rzoZgz > > =vZdB > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Gergely CZUCZY > Harmless Digital Bt > > +36-30-9702963 > - -- +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ | PGP : 0xB1E6FCE9 | Jabber : miwi(at)BSDCrew.de | | Skype : splash_111 | Mail : miwi(at)FreeBSD.org | +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ | Mess with the Best, Die like the Rest! | +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksWcXUACgkQdLJIhLHm/OktxQCeI3zbkZfxcwEsdKQWtlvkWrDB EIoAoJaZUvM25TI0SCWGby7gTIBfYXyY =qZjK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Gergely CZUCZY on 2 Dec 2009 09:10 On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:52:35 +0100 Alex Dupre <ale(a)FreeBSD.org> wrote: > Gergely CZUCZY ha scritto: > >> Oh come on. Security-wise you shouldn't hold php at all. It's about > >> backwards incompatibility, not about security. > > PHP 5.3 is not more incompatible with 5.2 than 5.2 was with 5.1 (and > 5.1 with 5.0). 5.2 branch will be dropped in near future, so I'm not > going to maintain 80 (eighty) additional ports just for fun. I can > delay a little more (a few weeks), but eventually it'll happen. > My original message has to be intended as a call for tester. > Actually I've run into this at zabbix, the guys were talking about the php5.3 unsupportedness. It turned out that there are such changes into the OOP part of the language that make code for 5.2 errorenous with 5.3, and requires application developers to update their code. Apart from this project, there are tons of people running code with pre-5.3 and in the commercial sector it might take a long way to update all the codes to php5.3. Such a forced update (by removing the 5.2 code) can be especially dangerous in mission-critical applications (let's not talk about people using php for this propose), and I think there are actually quite a lot of people running php under freebsd. So a way would be more than prefered in my opinion to keep php52 in ports for a while, along with 5.3 to give time for these people to update and test their code with 5.3. A forced update is not nice and has lots of risk. People are using freebsd for its stability and stable way of development, ports, whatever, and by forcing everyone to upgrade to 5.3 would losing such a point of the whole OS. -- Sincerely, Gergely CZUCZY Harmless Digital Bt +36-30-9702963 _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Miroslav Lachman on 2 Dec 2009 09:13 Martin Wilke wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:19:02PM +0100, Gergely CZUCZY wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:13:54 +0100 >> Martin Wilke<miwi(a)FreeBSD.org> wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 01:55:51AM +0200, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: [...] >>>> Hmm... Wouldn't then be better to keep PHP 5.2 available in >>>> ports (e.g. lang/php52)? Not only for the sake of FreeBSD-based >>>> WEB-servers with ZendOptimizer port installed - I suspect there >>>> could be other reasons to stay with PHP 5.2 while it's still >>>> available... >>>> >>> >>> - From the Security site you should not hold 5.2X >> Oh come on. Security-wise you shouldn't hold php at all. It's about >> backwards incompatibility, not about security. > > > That's your risk. But Bernhard Froehlich told me already there is a 5.2.12RC3 > avalibel :) 5.2.12RC3 is available on QA site http://qa.php.net/ so 5.2.x is not discontinued. Miroslav Lachman _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
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