From: linnix on

> Almost all ARM have JTAG so if you need OCD you lose multiple pins.

That is the positive side of ARM. Jtag is always there, and reliable.
AVR Jtag, on the other hand, could be disabled, and thus un-reliable by
definition.

From: steve on

Miem wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> As an amateur embedded circuit player, I have used couple of AVR and
> PIC microcontrollers in the past.
>
> In these days it is not to hard to find small, ARM based ready to use
> embedded boards under $100. They seems to have faster clock speed then
> most of the AVR and PIC boards.
>
> Can anybody shortly compare ARM with PIC ad AVR interms of (a)
> performance (b) software support (c) price?
>
> Regards,
>
> Miem

AVR and PIC aren't really comparable with ARM, the first two are very
low cost/power 8 bit machines, the ARM is a higher power, higher cost
32 bit machine. If you need to make a device that needs to run on a
coin cell for 2 years, you can't pick an ARM processor, if you need a
CPU that can do real time FFT, a PIC won't do it.

From: Buddy Smith on
steve <bungalow_steve(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> AVR and PIC aren't really comparable with ARM, the first two are very
> low cost/power 8 bit machines, the ARM is a higher power, higher cost
> 32 bit machine. If you need to make a device that needs to run on a
> coin cell for 2 years, you can't pick an ARM processor, if you need a
> CPU that can do real time FFT, a PIC won't do it.

I thought so too, but the products from luminary micro
(luminarymicro.com), discussed in this newsgroup recently and in Circuit
Cellar, have changed my mind.

They make ARM CPUs with very little RAM and flash, on the cheap.... they
say less than one dollar in 10k quantities (from an advertising spiel)

ttyl,

--buddy

From: steve on

Buddy Smith wrote:

> I thought so too, but the products from luminary micro
> (luminarymicro.com), discussed in this newsgroup recently and in Circuit
> Cellar, have changed my mind.
>
> They make ARM CPUs with very little RAM and flash, on the cheap.... they
> say less than one dollar in 10k quantities (from an advertising spiel)
>
> ttyl,
>
> --buddy

yes but they are very high power, I think 10x the power of the AVR at
1Mhz, if I remember correctly

From: Jason on
To add to this question, I've been doing mostly AVR work and I'd like to
branch into ARM. I had planned on just picking up some of Atmel's ARM
gear, but would anyone suggest any other first leap friendly ARM procs?
The Luminary has already been mentioned and seems interesting.


Jason
The place where you made your stand never mattered,
only that you were there... and still on your feet


Miem wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> As an amateur embedded circuit player, I have used couple of AVR and
> PIC microcontrollers in the past.
>
> In these days it is not to hard to find small, ARM based ready to use
> embedded boards under $100. They seems to have faster clock speed then
> most of the AVR and PIC boards.
>
> Can anybody shortly compare ARM with PIC ad AVR interms of (a)
> performance (b) software support (c) price?
>
> Regards,
>
> Miem
>