From: WebBiz on 7 Oct 2006 00:49 "Richard Cole" <ispcrco(a)hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:4n3di29is5vgl1lgo1k43bt07hsf108vbb(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:41:49 -0500, "WebBiz" <justask(a)andyouwillget.com> > wrote: >>Richard, I'm confused on what you mean by "if you copy it you have a >>'virgin' OS'. > By taking a copy of the Virtual Disk, Memory and configuration immediately > after installation you will have an unsullied copy of the OS. Place the > copies in a separate folder. > >>"Copy it", as opposed to "installing it"? Not sure if that is what you >>mean. >> >>Also, what do you mean by "blow it away and restore the copy"? > After you have test installed the software and once you have finished > testing it, then delete (blow away) the Virtual Disk, Memory and > configuration and copy the backups (see above) into the folder to put the > OS back to its 'just installed' state. > >>Looks like this Virtual PC will allow you to install Linux also, if I >>follow >>what you >>wrote here. That would be cool as well. > Yes, it installs well and if you set up networking correctly, you will > have > access to the internet from the virtual Linux. > > Richard > Web pages: http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk/ - caravanning, > http://www.rcole.org/ - personal web site and > http://www.homeindorset.co.uk > because I loves the domain name for email. > -- > Eagles have never evolved much imagination or forethought... But it was > forming a mental picture of what happened when you let go of a heavy > tortoise > that was still intimately gripping an essential bit of you. Its eyes > watered. > - 'Small Gods' by Terry Pratchett I guess to fully understand I just need to install it. From your description, it sounds like the virtual PC can be copied and deleted like any other folder or file. If it is that easy...wow. Thanks. Rick
From: WebBiz on 7 Oct 2006 00:51 "WebBiz" <justask(a)andyouwillget.com> wrote in message news:SlGVg.20693$2g4.8006(a)dukeread09... > > "Richard Cole" <ispcrco(a)hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message > news:4n3di29is5vgl1lgo1k43bt07hsf108vbb(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:41:49 -0500, "WebBiz" <justask(a)andyouwillget.com> >> wrote: >>>Richard, I'm confused on what you mean by "if you copy it you have a >>>'virgin' OS'. >> By taking a copy of the Virtual Disk, Memory and configuration >> immediately >> after installation you will have an unsullied copy of the OS. Place the >> copies in a separate folder. >> >>>"Copy it", as opposed to "installing it"? Not sure if that is what you >>>mean. >>> >>>Also, what do you mean by "blow it away and restore the copy"? >> After you have test installed the software and once you have finished >> testing it, then delete (blow away) the Virtual Disk, Memory and >> configuration and copy the backups (see above) into the folder to put the >> OS back to its 'just installed' state. >> >>>Looks like this Virtual PC will allow you to install Linux also, if I >>>follow >>>what you >>>wrote here. That would be cool as well. >> Yes, it installs well and if you set up networking correctly, you will >> have >> access to the internet from the virtual Linux. >> >> Richard >> Web pages: http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk/ - caravanning, >> http://www.rcole.org/ - personal web site and >> http://www.homeindorset.co.uk >> because I loves the domain name for email. >> -- >> Eagles have never evolved much imagination or forethought... But it was >> forming a mental picture of what happened when you let go of a heavy >> tortoise >> that was still intimately gripping an essential bit of you. Its eyes >> watered. >> - 'Small Gods' by Terry Pratchett > > I guess to fully understand I just need to install it. From your > description, it sounds like the virtual PC can be copied and deleted like > any other folder or file. If it is that easy...wow. > > Thanks. > > Rick Well, looks like I'll not be able to install it anytime soon. It states that I need Win2K or XP pro. I'm running XP Home. Bummer. Rick
From: J French on 7 Oct 2006 03:02 On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:13:23 -0500, "WebBiz" <justask(a)andyouwillget.com> wrote: <snip> >> It might be worth checking out : www.molebox.com >> You should be able to create one standalone EXE with it >Oh cool. It would be just like Delphi, eh JF? >I'm reading the site now. >Thanks! I've tested it out and was impressed, there is an annoying 'feature' that all files need to be in the same/sub directory tree, but apart from that it seems very slick. I would be interested to hear how you get on. Personally I go to extreme lengths to avoid delivering /any/ OCXes or AX DLLs whatsoever
From: mayayana on 7 Oct 2006 09:43 You can also multi-boot if you have licenses for the Windows versions. (I'm assuming you have the CDS for the versions you need to test, and I'm assuming that VirtualPC also requires that you have CDs. I've never used Virtual PC.) Multi-booting allows you to select an OS from a menu at boot (98, XP, Linux, etc.) but you have to install the OSs and each has it's own requirements. It doesn't require extra memory like a virtual machine will, and each OS is really, directly installed, not just hosted by a second OS. But it's also probably more work to multi-boot. There are various things you need to deal with for each OS when multi-booting. For instance, 98 can boot from any primary partition but must be installed initially to drive 0 / partition 0. XP is adaptable but the install is a mess if you already have other systems installed, or even partitions. It seems to overwrite the partition table and takes over boot, but then refuses to recognize non-"supprted" OSs. I've seen a number of cases where people lost their extra data partitions because XP is so "stupid" it just wiped the partition table clean. Then it only sees "C" drive and the extra data partitions (D, E, etc.) end up as hidden, inaccessible space that has to be re-found with a disk utility. So it's a good idea to put XP on a disk image and not let it touch your MBR or partition table. Linux can present similar problems. The Linux people are trying too hard to make Linux easy to install. The upshot is that Linux's boot loader, Lilo, can also be aggressive about taking over the boot. That's just an example of what you'll need to be willing to deal with if you multi-boot. But once you get set up, and if you use disk imaging for the Windows OSs, then you can run several Windows versions and will never need to actually install any of them again.
From: WebBiz on 7 Oct 2006 12:49
"Richard Cole" <ispcrco(a)hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:ei3fi2pf6vfbs54d5dkp376je7gltdi01a(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 23:51:32 -0500, "WebBiz" <justask(a)andyouwillget.com> > wrote: >>Well, looks like I'll not be able to install it anytime soon. It states >>that >>I need Win2K or XP pro. I'm running XP Home. >> >>Bummer. > Rick > > MS Virtual PC runs on XP Home (well I run it on my own laptop under XP > Home > SP2). > > I haven't tried VMware on XP Home. > > Richard > Web pages: http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk/ - caravanning, > http://www.rcole.org/ - personal web site and > http://www.homeindorset.co.uk > because I loves the domain name for email. > -- > ...as the housewife of time adjusts her lipstick in the mirror of destiny, > and > the cyclist of fate disappears under her speeding four-by-four... - > Humphrey > Littleton closing comment in I'm sorry I haven't a clue. When I run the install program, it pops up and tells me that it is only compatible with XP Pro or Win 2000. Did you get the same popup and install anyway? Rick |