From: Simon Waters on 12 Apr 2010 12:03 On Monday 12 April 2010 16:53:10 Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:50:02AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > > There is no IMAP client that I'm aware of that can 'save' a message to > > to the Sent folder. > > They all do it, that's how messages end up in the Sent folder, you > are confused. Although Thunderbird seems to find ever more ingenious reasons for why it can't do it for this specific message at this specific time, as a bonus giving you a chance to mistakenly send the message twice..... Some days I think starting again from scratch with software would be a good idea, then I remember how quickly I can code....
From: Charles Marcus on 12 Apr 2010 12:09 On 2010-04-12 11:53 AM, Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:50:02AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > >> There is no IMAP client that I'm aware of that can 'save' a message to >> to the Sent folder. > > They all do it, that's how messages end up in the Sent folder, you > are confused. No, I simply didn't word my comment well... ;) The Saving to Sent happens *after* the message is sent via the defined outbound (usually smtp) server. Mike had said (and what I was responding to): "Then instead the message could be saved to the Sent folder instead, and the submission server could fetch it from there.". This would mean it hadn't been sent yet, but had been saved to the sent folder *before* sending - or there would be no reason to 'fetch' it. I guess Mike was referring to the concept of the Outbox, which Outlook (and maybe other?) clients use. -- Best regards, Charles
From: Charles Marcus on 12 Apr 2010 12:11 On 2010-04-12 11:56 AM, Steve wrote: > But you are right. All the other clients that I know save the message > on the server or at least are able to save the message on the server. > I never managed to do that with Outlook without fancy macros/rules. Outlook 2007 finally allows you to Save to a Sent folder directly on the IMAP server, and has many other IMAP fixes. It still sucks as an IMAP client (worst is it uses Word to render HTML email rather than IE), it just sucks less than it used to. -- Best regards, Charles
From: Victor Duchovni on 12 Apr 2010 12:12 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:09:40PM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-04-12 11:53 AM, Victor Duchovni wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:50:02AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > > > >> There is no IMAP client that I'm aware of that can 'save' a message to > >> to the Sent folder. > > > > They all do it, that's how messages end up in the Sent folder, you > > are confused. > > No, I simply didn't word my comment well... ;) > > The Saving to Sent happens *after* the message is sent via the defined > outbound (usually smtp) server. There also no mainstream IMAP MUAs that support BURL. The BURL clients are free to use a different strategy... -- Viktor. P.S. Morgan Stanley is looking for a New York City based, Senior Unix system/email administrator to architect and sustain our perimeter email environment. If you are interested, please drop me a note.
From: Charles Marcus on 12 Apr 2010 12:13
On 2010-04-12 12:03 PM, Simon Waters wrote: > Some days I think starting again from scratch with software would be a good > idea, then I remember how quickly I can code.... Timo (dovecot author) has expressed interest in maybe someday coding an IMAP client from scratch... one can only hope... ;) -- Best regards, Charles |