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From: John Hurley on 28 Apr 2010 14:39
Chuck:

> > An alternate explanation for PSU's might be to say since Oracle
> > support got really behind in delivering Patch Sets on a timely basis
> > they came up with something else to keep you updated between Patch
> > Sets.
>
> > They claim they are well tested.
>
> I thought that PSU's *were* patchsets. No?

Nope.

Patchset updates ... for example one moved 11.1.0.7.0 up to
11.1.0.7.1 ...

11.1 came out base as 11.1.0.6.0 and the first patchset moved it to
11.1.0.7.0 ... latest patchset update can get you to 11.1.0.7.3 ( not
11.1.0.8.0 ).

There's a metalink doc that explains them ( sorta/kinda ).
From: John Hurley on 29 Apr 2010 14:10
Mladen:

# Joel's stuff is scary. I cringed when reading it.

To be honest I did not understand Joel's post. MOHEL ?

Sorry did not and still don't get it. Sometimes it takes me a couple
of reads of posts by Joel to understand the ( at times ) dark
humor ... this one I am still drawing a blank.

From: Mladen Gogala on 29 Apr 2010 20:44
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:10:39 -0700, John Hurley wrote:


> To be honest I did not understand Joel's post. MOHEL ?

Mohel is a person who does circumcision. That is a Jewish expression. I
am of Jewish origins and, after using this word, I strongly suspect that
Joel is too.



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From: Vladimir M. Zakharychev on 30 Apr 2010 04:19
On Apr 28, 6:52 pm, Chuck <chuckh1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the difference between CPU, PSU, PSE, and MLR? I see all of
> these terms in the MOS (My Oracle Support) patching recommendations but
> no explanations.
>
> I know what a PSU and CPU are.  CPU="Critical Patch Update" and it
> includes only security related patches. PSU="Patch Set Update" and it
> includes the most recent CPU  plus additional non-security bug fixes.
>
> What are PSE's and MLR's though and how do I know if I really need them?
>
> Also I thought Oracle said once you start applying PSU's to an oracle
> home you should not revert back to CPU's, however in my OMS home I've
> applied PSU's, yet the patch recommendations both in Grid Control and
> MOS are recommending the latest CPU. Do I have it backwards? Is it ok to
> go from PSU to CPU but not CPU to PSU?

MLR = Merge Label Request. Sometimes fixes for different bugs may
touch the same code, in this case they need to be merged to resolve
the conflict and deliver the fixes in one package. Typically done per
customer request (you are hit by two or more bugs and you find that
the patches are conflicting. You request a merge, they evaluate if
it's worth the effort and sometimes deliver the MLR patch.) Never seen
on Windows because they always compile Windows binaries themselves. In
fact, Windows patch bundles are MLRs, too, but they decide which fixes
to merge themselves.

Regards,
Vladimir M. Zakharychev
N-Networks, makers of Dynamic PSP(tm)
http://www.dynamicpsp.com
From: joel garry on 30 Apr 2010 17:06
On Apr 29, 5:44 pm, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mla...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:10:39 -0700, John Hurley wrote:
> > To be honest I did not understand Joel's post.  MOHEL ?
>
> Mohel is a person who does circumcision. That is a Jewish expression. I
> am of Jewish origins and, after using this word, I strongly suspect that
> Joel is too.
>
> --http://mgogala.byethost5.com

I had no clue you were too, at least that I remembered. I've left a
few clues about the net, but generally am quiet about it, as there are
unfortunate events in this world. Of course, it's obvious on my
flickr page. When I first moved to the area where I live (1986), the
head of a Nazi group lived a few miles away in Fallbrook.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance

I have to laugh at John not googling mohel (sorry John!). Of course,
I have no problem explaining things to those who don't understand, and
freely admit to obscurity, sometimes intentional.

jg
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