From: C. Kevin Provance on 16 Mar 2010 22:11 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:%23ygbTMVxKHA.3564(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... : Survey time... Anyone here a MSFT customer? (Present tense) Wow...I had to stop and think, when was the last time I actually bought something from MSFT? It was either VB6 or Win98. Every OS since then has come preinstalled.
From: mayayana on 16 Mar 2010 23:53 Wow...I had to stop and think, when was the last time I actually bought something from MSFT? It was either VB6 or Win98. Every OS since then has come preinstalled. > That's a purchase. I think they get $50-80 for each OEM license. So if you buy a commercial PC with Windows pre-installed then you're buying Windows. It might be a passive purchase, but the money is just as real. Many people actually pay more to MS now than they used to. They buy a PC with Windows, then get malware or other problems and just buy another PC. That's the beauty of OEM for Microsoft. They can keep selling the same license to people several times over by claiming that they've actually sold the license to an inanimate object -- a circuit board.
From: Cor Ligthert[MVP] on 17 Mar 2010 03:27 You still can buy a motherboard, a disc, a video card, an OS etc, at your choice like every expert does. Where you are talking about are computers created for a certain group of users like home users or business users, they are happy with preinstalled OS and other software "C. Kevin Provance" <*@*.*> wrote in message news:OIk5ecXxKHA.4492(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message > news:%23ygbTMVxKHA.3564(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > : Survey time... Anyone here a MSFT customer? (Present tense) > > Wow...I had to stop and think, when was the last time I actually bought > something from MSFT? It was either VB6 or Win98. Every OS since then has > come preinstalled.
From: AR88 Enthusiast on 17 Mar 2010 06:04 "Paul Clement" <UseAdddressAtEndofMessage(a)swspectrum.com> wrote in message > Sorry, can't speak for "Mike". Up until a few years ago I had never heard > of him before, although I > believe he was in the MVP program for a year. > > > Paul > ~~~~ > Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic) Well, Mike Williams really knows what he's doing with VB6. So if you haven't heard of him, you must have ignored most of the posts on here so as far as I am concerned that's your credibility gone.
From: Mike Williams on 17 Mar 2010 07:42
"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <Notmyfirstname(a)planet.nl> wrote in message news:evOgbNaxKHA.812(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Where you are talking about are computers created for a > certain group of users like home users or business users, > they are happy with preinstalled OS and other software You've just made that up, Cor. I know tons of people who are not happy with preinstalled software, especially the "trial software" that Micro$oft and various other vendors pay the manufacturers to dump on the machines they sell. Most sensible people get rid of it immediately, but others who are less knowledgable get sucked in by the scam. That doesn't mean they are happy. Mike |