Phone security PIN and PIN2 ?
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From: James on 29 Apr 2010 07:30 I must admit I am confisued with this and wonder if someone can help me make sense of it all. I have one phone that requires a password when the phone starts up, and if I move the sim from this phone to another phone, the password is required on that phone (so I assume that the password is held in the SIM). This sim based password, would it be the PIN or PIN2? I now have another new phone and want to set the same password for the sim in this new phone. When I go into the phone security I see I can set a PIN or a PIN2. Which is the one I need to set to make the sim secure? And what is the remaining PIN/PIN2 used for? Can both these PINs be set by me or does the network operator need to be involved to set them? If I ever forget either of these PINs, can the network operator recover the PIN/PIN2 for me? (It wont happen as I wont forget the PINs, but just a question I need to know the answer to). Once I have set a PN and a PIN2, can I remove them if I change my mind? Thanks James
From: Brian Mc on 29 Apr 2010 08:15 James <566474(a)5422543.net> wrote: : I have one phone that requires a password when the phone starts up, and if I : move the sim from this phone to another phone, the password is required on : that phone (so I assume that the password is held in the SIM). This sim : based password, would it be the PIN or PIN2? PIN1 : I now have another new phone and want to set the same password for the sim : in this new phone. When I go into the phone security I see I can set a PIN : or a PIN2. Which is the one I need to set to make the sim secure? And what : is the remaining PIN/PIN2 used for? Can both these PINs be set by me or : does the network operator need to be involved to set them? PIN1 is the main SIM security PIN - the one which is requested at power-on and before it will connect to the network. PIN2 controls "fixed dialing" - where the phone can be restricted to call only certain numbers/and or area codes. Not all network operators even support PIN2! : If I ever forget either of these PINs, can the network operator recover the : PIN/PIN2 for me? (It wont happen as I wont forget the PINs, but just a : question I need to know the answer to). Get a PIN wrong 3 times and the phone will ask for a different code (PUK/PUK2) which only the networks can supply. Get the PUK code wrong 10 times and the SIM is totally blocked (for ever - new SIM needed!) : Once I have set a PN and a PIN2, can I remove them if I change my mind? Yes - for PIN set the phone to "require SIM PIN" to "off/no". For PIN2 set "fixed dialing" similarly!
From: Denis McMahon on 29 Apr 2010 14:41 Brian Mc wrote: > James <566474(a)5422543.net> wrote: > > : I have one phone that requires a password when the phone starts up, and if I > : move the sim from this phone to another phone, the password is required on > : that phone (so I assume that the password is held in the SIM). This sim > : based password, would it be the PIN or PIN2? > > PIN1 > > : I now have another new phone and want to set the same password for the sim > : in this new phone. When I go into the phone security I see I can set a PIN > : or a PIN2. Which is the one I need to set to make the sim secure? And what > : is the remaining PIN/PIN2 used for? Can both these PINs be set by me or > : does the network operator need to be involved to set them? > > PIN1 is the main SIM security PIN - the one which is requested at power-on > and before it will connect to the network. PIN2 controls "fixed dialing" - > where the phone can be restricted to call only certain numbers/and or area > codes. Not all network operators even support PIN2! > > : If I ever forget either of these PINs, can the network operator recover the > : PIN/PIN2 for me? (It wont happen as I wont forget the PINs, but just a > : question I need to know the answer to). > > Get a PIN wrong 3 times and the phone will ask for a different code (PUK/PUK2) > which only the networks can supply. Get the PUK code wrong 10 times and > the SIM is totally blocked (for ever - new SIM needed!) > > : Once I have set a PN and a PIN2, can I remove them if I change my mind? > > Yes - for PIN set the phone to "require SIM PIN" to "off/no". For PIN2 set > "fixed dialing" similarly! I understand that some phones also have a phone-specific code that the phone will request if a different sim card is inserted. The phone may also have its own power on code. In theory these prevent people nicking your expensive handset and using their sim in it / accessing any phone-resident (as opposed to sim-resident) data etc. Rgds Denis McMahon
From: Jon on 4 May 2010 16:15 In article <83t8umF1cbU1(a)mid.individual.net>, 566474(a)5422543.net says... > I must admit I am confisued with this and wonder if someone can help me make > sense of it all. > > I have one phone that requires a password when the phone starts up, and if I > move the sim from this phone to another phone, the password is required on > that phone (so I assume that the password is held in the SIM). This sim > based password, would it be the PIN or PIN2? PIN. > I now have another new phone and want to set the same password for the sim > in this new phone. When I go into the phone security I see I can set a PIN > or a PIN2. Which is the one I need to set to make the sim secure? And what > is the remaining PIN/PIN2 used for? Can both these PINs be set by me or > does the network operator need to be involved to set them? You have to set it and it's PIN. PIN2 is used for enabling/disabling access to certain network features like fixed dialling (limits the SIM to only phone pre-programmed numbers) > If I ever forget either of these PINs, can the network operator recover the > PIN/PIN2 for me? (It wont happen as I wont forget the PINs, but just a > question I need to know the answer to). No, but you can ask your network operator for a PUK or PUK2 to unblock a blocked PIN/PIN2. > Once I have set a PN and a PIN2, can I remove them if I change my mind? Yes. -- Regards Jon
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