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From: JimL on 10 May 2010 16:45 "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message news:u6oN6Hm6KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message > news:hrl2cf$bna$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message >> news:%23S$Xw5X5KHA.4888(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>> "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message >>> news:hr4dg8$1ib$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> I can play commercial movie DVD's on my XP Pro SP3, but it sees nothing >>>> on DVD's I have recorded. Both Windows Media and RealPlayer say I need >>>> decoders or something like that. The recorder/player (Toshiba) plays >>>> them, of course. Is this just a case of Toshiba trying to capture a >>>> market by making their recordings play on nothing but a Toshiba? >>>> >>>> JimL >>>> >>> >>> What program and method are you using to publish the movie to the DVD >>> media? Therein lies your answer but without knowing the answer we can't >>> help you. >>> >>> If you open your created DVD in Windows Explorer, you should see at >>> least one folder called Video_TS and also maybe one Audio_TS. Without >>> the Video_TS folder you don't have a proper Video DVD. >> >> >> As I mentioned in the question, "their [Toshiba's] recordings..." I >> record them on "The recorder/player (Toshiba)." I didn't even know there >> was a way to record shows using a computer. Otherwise I would have said >> I record them on the recorder. >> >> JimL >> > > Well you are on a computer newsgroup with Windows XP in the title. > Toshiba makes DVD drives for computers so one can only speculate. > > As for your issue, it may depend totally on the type of recording the > Toshiba stand-alone machine makes, what kind of disc you are using and if > the video has been finalized by the recorder. If it hasn't been finalized > then you can't play it on any other machine, other than another Toshiba > stand-alone device. > > If you are going to use the disc on a computer then you need to ensure > that you are using a DVD+ or - R or a DVD + or -RW disk that has been > finalized. You can not use a DVD RAM disc and there are other formats that > some stand-alone recorders create that can't be played on anything else. > I have a Magnavox like that. > > Have you attempted to look at the disc in Windows Explorer to see if the > folder is there as I mentioned in my original reply? If it shows as a > blank disc or not properly formatted disc when you attempt to view it's > contents I would suspect that the disc was not finalized. Thanks. When finalized the menu shows, but when I try to play anything I get a series of messages the essence of which says, "Go somewhere and buy some expensive software." That is why my original post asked if Toshiba is just using proprietary protocols to try to corner this little corner of the market. Despite the first answer I got declaring otherwise, I am gathering that the Toshiba recorder will not, under any circumstance, make discs that play like normal store bought movies. Thanks JimL
From: LVTravel on 10 May 2010 21:29 "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message news:hs9ra6$115$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message > news:u6oN6Hm6KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message >> news:hrl2cf$bna$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23S$Xw5X5KHA.4888(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> >>>> "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message >>>> news:hr4dg8$1ib$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> I can play commercial movie DVD's on my XP Pro SP3, but it sees >>>>> nothing on DVD's I have recorded. Both Windows Media and RealPlayer >>>>> say I need decoders or something like that. The recorder/player >>>>> (Toshiba) plays them, of course. Is this just a case of Toshiba >>>>> trying to capture a market by making their recordings play on nothing >>>>> but a Toshiba? >>>>> >>>>> JimL >>>>> >>>> >>>> What program and method are you using to publish the movie to the DVD >>>> media? Therein lies your answer but without knowing the answer we can't >>>> help you. >>>> >>>> If you open your created DVD in Windows Explorer, you should see at >>>> least one folder called Video_TS and also maybe one Audio_TS. Without >>>> the Video_TS folder you don't have a proper Video DVD. >>> >>> >>> As I mentioned in the question, "their [Toshiba's] recordings..." I >>> record them on "The recorder/player (Toshiba)." I didn't even know >>> there was a way to record shows using a computer. Otherwise I would >>> have said I record them on the recorder. >>> >>> JimL >>> >> >> Well you are on a computer newsgroup with Windows XP in the title. >> Toshiba makes DVD drives for computers so one can only speculate. >> >> As for your issue, it may depend totally on the type of recording the >> Toshiba stand-alone machine makes, what kind of disc you are using and if >> the video has been finalized by the recorder. If it hasn't been >> finalized then you can't play it on any other machine, other than another >> Toshiba stand-alone device. >> >> If you are going to use the disc on a computer then you need to ensure >> that you are using a DVD+ or - R or a DVD + or -RW disk that has been >> finalized. You can not use a DVD RAM disc and there are other formats >> that some stand-alone recorders create that can't be played on anything >> else. I have a Magnavox like that. >> >> Have you attempted to look at the disc in Windows Explorer to see if the >> folder is there as I mentioned in my original reply? If it shows as a >> blank disc or not properly formatted disc when you attempt to view it's >> contents I would suspect that the disc was not finalized. > Thanks. When finalized the menu shows, but when I try to play anything I > get a series of messages the essence of which says, "Go somewhere and buy > some expensive software." That is why my original post asked if Toshiba > is just using proprietary protocols to try to corner this little corner of > the market. Despite the first answer I got declaring otherwise, I am > gathering that the Toshiba recorder will not, under any circumstance, > make discs that play like normal store bought movies. > > Thanks > > JimL > We would need the exact wording of those error messages to help determine what the Toshiba recorder is doing. If you have read the instruction manual for your recorder and use the type of disc in the drive that they recommend and finalize the disk you should not have any problem playing the disk in any other player, either stand-alone or on your computer if you can also play commercial movie discs on the machine that you are attempting to play the Toshiba recorded disc on. What is the model number of the Toshiba recorder?
From: JimL on 17 May 2010 12:13
"LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message news:uCNnolK8KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message > news:hs9ra6$115$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message >> news:u6oN6Hm6KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>> >>> "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message >>> news:hrl2cf$bna$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23S$Xw5X5KHA.4888(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "JimL" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message >>>>> news:hr4dg8$1ib$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> I can play commercial movie DVD's on my XP Pro SP3, but it sees >>>>>> nothing on DVD's I have recorded. Both Windows Media and RealPlayer >>>>>> say I need decoders or something like that. The recorder/player >>>>>> (Toshiba) plays them, of course. Is this just a case of Toshiba >>>>>> trying to capture a market by making their recordings play on nothing >>>>>> but a Toshiba? >>>>>> >>>>>> JimL >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What program and method are you using to publish the movie to the DVD >>>>> media? Therein lies your answer but without knowing the answer we >>>>> can't help you. >>>>> >>>>> If you open your created DVD in Windows Explorer, you should see at >>>>> least one folder called Video_TS and also maybe one Audio_TS. Without >>>>> the Video_TS folder you don't have a proper Video DVD. >>>> >>>> >>>> As I mentioned in the question, "their [Toshiba's] recordings..." I >>>> record them on "The recorder/player (Toshiba)." I didn't even know >>>> there was a way to record shows using a computer. Otherwise I would >>>> have said I record them on the recorder. >>>> >>>> JimL >>>> >>> >>> Well you are on a computer newsgroup with Windows XP in the title. >>> Toshiba makes DVD drives for computers so one can only speculate. >>> >>> As for your issue, it may depend totally on the type of recording the >>> Toshiba stand-alone machine makes, what kind of disc you are using and >>> if the video has been finalized by the recorder. If it hasn't been >>> finalized then you can't play it on any other machine, other than >>> another Toshiba stand-alone device. >>> >>> If you are going to use the disc on a computer then you need to ensure >>> that you are using a DVD+ or - R or a DVD + or -RW disk that has been >>> finalized. You can not use a DVD RAM disc and there are other formats >>> that some stand-alone recorders create that can't be played on anything >>> else. I have a Magnavox like that. >>> >>> Have you attempted to look at the disc in Windows Explorer to see if the >>> folder is there as I mentioned in my original reply? If it shows as a >>> blank disc or not properly formatted disc when you attempt to view it's >>> contents I would suspect that the disc was not finalized. >> Thanks. When finalized the menu shows, but when I try to play anything I >> get a series of messages the essence of which says, "Go somewhere and buy >> some expensive software." That is why my original post asked if Toshiba >> is just using proprietary protocols to try to corner this little corner >> of the market. Despite the first answer I got declaring otherwise, I am >> gathering that the Toshiba recorder will not, under any circumstance, >> make discs that play like normal store bought movies. >> >> Thanks >> >> JimL >> > We would need the exact wording of those error messages to help determine > what the Toshiba recorder is doing. "Windows Media Player cannot play the DVD because a compatible decoder is not installed on your computer." When I click on the Web Help button I get a MS web page saying this: ----------------------------------------------------- DVD Playback Options for Windows If you are running the Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise, or Windows XP operating system on your computer, you might need to install a compatible DVD decoder (also known as a MPEG-2 decoder) before continuing with the following activities. a.. Playing a DVD b.. Playing a recorded TV show c.. Playing video files that were encoded with the MPEG-2 codec (.mpeg, ..mpg, and some .avi files) To purchase a compatible DVD decoder, visit Plug-ins for Windows Media Player. ----------------------------------------------------- Following the link gets me a listing of MS softwares. With RealPlayer I get: -------------------------------------------------- RealPlayer needs to download new software to play this clip. -------------------------------------------------- When I click on from there I get: -------------------------------------------------- There is no software update available from Real to support this content. -------------------------------------------------- > > If you have read the instruction manual for your recorder and use the type > of disc in the drive that they recommend and finalize the disk you should > not have any problem playing the disk in any other player, either > stand-alone or on your computer if you can also play commercial movie > discs on the machine that you are attempting to play the Toshiba recorded > disc on. I've played dozens of commercial movie discs on the computer with no problems. The recorder uses both DVD-RW and DVD+RV. Finalizing is a matter of menuing to the selection. With DVD-RW, finalizing makes a computer readable file structure. Clicking the drive in My Computer brings up Windows Media which displays a title and chapter structure, but fails (as above) to play anything. It also sets up a menu of titles found on the disc which displays on at least two DVD players. With DVD+RW, finalizing does all the above except building the player displayable title menu. > > What is the model number of the Toshiba recorder? DR570KU I'm getting the feeling I'd be better off sticking with only DVD-RW's. Video mode is another story. JimL |