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From: thanatoid on 4 Aug 2010 12:44
RayLopez99 <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote in
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<SNIP>

> No, I got cheap and good. It surfs the net (slower than
> Win2k or NT4 though), and it was a throwaway PC (cheap).

For a super-fast lo-resource Win browser, check out
www.offbyone.com

No javascript, no flash, 100% safe browsing without
bells/whistles.

<SNIP>

> True enough--I don't even have Java in my Firefox, but I
> think I can do online banking (I'll have to check but I'm
> pretty sure most functionality does not require Java but
> just plain HTML).

Java and javascript are not the same. Most "modern" sites
(unnecessarily) including /all/ banks (I'm pretty sure) require
javascript. I use Opera(a)USB (q.v.) with those.

<SNIP>


--
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners."
Ernst Jan Plugge
From: thanatoid on 6 Aug 2010 21:34
Homer <usenet(a)slated.org> wrote in
news:hiuri7-mkq.ln1(a)sky.matrix:

> Verily I say unto thee, that thanatoid spake thusly:
>
>> For a super-fast lo-resource Win browser, check out
>> www.offbyone.com
>
> [quote]
> Click here to download the Off By One Browser Setup kit or
> ZIP file package, posted January 2, 2006.
> [/quote]
>
> A proprietary browser that hasn't been touched in over four
> years.

What's wrong with proprietary if it's free?

And it hasn't been touched because it doesn't NEED to be
touched. They added png support a few years ago, and tabs. I
still prefer to just open a new window. You can open 50 (or
more) windows with enough RAM. I hope they NEVER touch it again.

>> No javascript, no flash, 100% safe browsing without
>> bells/whistles.
>
> Try this "super-fast lo-resource browser" instead:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/arora
>
> Javascript, flash, 100% safe browsing with bells/whistle.

If it does javascript, it is NOT 100% safe.

And it's a 10 MB DL. OB1 is a 1.2MB exe with 2 SSL files - /if/
you want SSL (I see Arora uses the /same/ 2 files, just newer
versions.) Small is beautiful.

I won't bother installing it, but I would just LOVE to see how
much memory it uses, and what the 10MB DL turns into when
installed... Right, a 30MB installer... At least it's not an MSI
installer... Sigh...

> And unlike "OffByOne" is cross platform, currently
> maintained, GPL licensed, and scores 100% in the Acid3
> test.

Who cares about Acid3? Stupid web. I miss the days of POP/SMTP,
FTP, IRC, and when Usenet was what it was, not what it is.



-
Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to
reality.
From: thanatoid on 7 Aug 2010 14:11
mjt <myswtestYOURSHOES(a)gmail.com> wrote in
news:20100807130405.0d98ba9c(a)stimpy.site:

> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 06:04:51 +0100
> Homer <usenet(a)slated.org> wrote:
>
>> 24MB resident, according to "top", although I can't test
>> the Windows version, as I don't have Windows.
>
> WINE :)

From a "Linux expert" (build 300054.54.tar.gz2) to a Linux
expert (build 290901.22.tar.gz2)...

--

Any mental activity is easy if it need not be subjected to
reality.
From: thanatoid on 9 Aug 2010 01:21
Homer <usenet(a)slated.org> wrote in
news:ul74j7-1p4.ln1(a)sky.matrix:

> Verily I say unto thee, that thanatoid spake thusly:
>> Hi Homer
>>
>> (BTW, I realized you did not write 'The Odyssey' but are
>> probably a major Simpsons fan. Oh well...)
>
> I like The Simpsons, but I'm not a major fan really. In
> fact I barely watch any TV at all.

I don't like The Simpsons, but "Life In Hell" (q.v.) was a
masterpiece, and Groening fully deserves all the money he has
made off the incredibly boring yet "just 'alternative' enough to
be thought cool by the clueless" Simpsons.

> I was actually given my nickname by a work colleague many
> years ago, apparently because he thought I looked like
> Homer Simpson.
>
>> I know the suggestion that the "whole Linux operation"
>> could be a NSA/CIA scam was more than a little insane, but
> [...]
>> Subject: Re: Warning about FLV files From: net(a)watch.com
>> Newsgroups:
>> alt.binaries.tv.shaggable.babes
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> LOL!

It used to be a fun group. It sucks now, but I just happen to
still have it in my list.
Just proves that you /never/ know where a post like the one
below will turn up.

<SNIP>

> I have also looked at the relatively small sources for Gnash
> too, in the past, out of curiosity, and didn't see anything
> particularly sinister.

I trust you realize that sinister organizations are pretty good
at disguising themselves. Did you know that Scientology owns and
runs the biggest "cult awareness" site?

> WRT PDF, I use Okular mainly, again because it's Free
> Software, so any Adobe Reader / Acrobat bugs don't apply.
> Again, it may have it's own bugs.

"Its", not "it is". A true Linux World member. (I am aware the
inability to spell it's, lose, and to use the phrase "could not
care less" correctly is NOT limited to Linux users.)

BTW, what do you think of this little slogan I thought up
(before I - final verdict not in yet - "decided" that Linux just
was not worth the hassle):

Have You Leen Uxperienced?
(With apologies to the greatest guitarist of all time.)

I'd try to sell it but I hear Linux is all free or sum'pn.

<SNIP>

> They have an accounts area which allows you to review
> exactly what data they've stored about you, and you can
> change or delete it at any time.

So they claim. Since when is Google in your 'circle of trust'?

> Currently my profile is
> mostly blank, and I use the Customize Google plugin for
> Firefox to anonymise my search queries, along with cookie
> management, a VPN service, and various other privacy and
> security measures. But despite all that, I don't really
> have anything to hide anyway, so frankly I think even the
> measures I do take are rather over the top.

I don't even do a tenth of what you do, and have nothing to hide
either. But I find conspiracy theories at worst amusing and
sometimes most thought-provoking.

<SNIP>

> etc.) It's quite harmless, and allows distro maintainers to
> better target users' requirements based on the type of
> systems out there. Personally, I don't like that it's
> installed by default (opt out), but the fact is it's quite
> harmless. The data it sends is stored in plain text and may
> be reviewed before sending (if at all).

OK.

> By far the only real threat in all this is various
> departments of the US government, including the NSA, but
> not for reasons that have anything to do with GNU/Linux.
> They have the power to search and seize data from anywhere
> in the US, without a warrant, without being required to
> give a reason, and without even requiring to inform the
> owner of that data. They simply write their own "hall pass"
> called an NSL (National Security Letter) then pretty much
> do whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they
> want, without any probable cause or justification. Worse
> still, the holder of that data (e.g. the ISP) is then
> gagged by court order to prevent him from even telling
> anyone an NSL was ever issued, and any subsequent leaks of
> this NSL are similarly gagged, so that e.g. the press can't
> even report it.

Yes, it's known as a police state.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
>
> So believe me, Google is the absolute /least/ of your
> problems.

I am well aware of that. ;-) And I don't even live in the US -
not that it would matter if I did, since the most objectionable
thing I have ever done is suggest that there is NO way two
buildings built by the Japanese to withstand forces MANY times
greater than a passenger jet impact could NOT have fallen
straight to the ground like they (both) did, not to mention the
third building which seemed to just want to join in all the fun
and did exactly the same.

BTW - I just recently read that the CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
(yes, the guys in those goofy red uniforms) have INTERNATIONAL
POWERS! (They put it differently, I forget the exact
terminology.)

> If you have any data of any kind sitting on a server in the
> US, be it with Google, your bank, or anyone else, then the
> US government can access it without warrant and without
> even informing you, either before or after the event, until
> and unless they come to arrest you under whatever pretext
> they feel is justified (e.g. you criticised some American
> invasion of a foreign country, therefore you must be a
> terrorist).
> The real irony in all this, is that the US government then
> has the gall to criticise China for it's censorship

"it is censorship"? It's a SIMPLE RULE!

> and
> human rights record, when they are themselves basically
> operating like the Stazi.

I don't like the way the world is turning. But I really don't
want to get into discussing all this, I've had my fill.

> Very fortunately for me, I'm not an American, and I don't
> live in the US, however even we Brits need to beware
> extradition orders, since apparently the UK has a "special
> relationship" with the US which enables the American
> government to demand the UK Home Office hands over British
> citizens to them without question or explanation. So in
> that sense, even we are threatened by the same Stazi that
> threatens the US.

Yes, it is rather curious how the UK gov't seems to be largely a
puppet of the US these days...

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_Act_2003#Controversy


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reality.
From: thanatoid on 9 Aug 2010 11:53
Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_goldfarb(a)hooya.com> wrote in
news:cu1066t2kb7flsfep67bt4osdhoq4tmq4q(a)4ax.com:

> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 05:21:02 +0000 (UTC), thanatoid
> <waiting(a)the.exit.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't like The Simpsons,
>
> And I thought I was the only person on the planet that
> doesn't like The Simpsons.

I like 'Malcolm in the Middle' and 'Seinfeld'. I hated the first
episode of Seinfeld I ever saw (from the 6th season IIRC - I
never watched it when it was popular, and hearing statements
like "I feel like my life is an episode of Seinfeld" made me
sick to my stomach) but it has become my religion. I bought the
black complete set. I have seen every episode at least 6 or 8
times. I could spend the rest of my life watching it - even
though I find Seinfeld /himself/ kind of annoying. But the great
guest actors make up for it.

Malcolm in the Middle is actually the superior show, I think.
But they are different enough that it really doesn't matter.


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