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From: Michael Goetze on 27 Jan 2010 16:00 Hi, I've struggled with this issue for hours and gotten no help from Manpages, nor IRC. So if someone could help me and CC me on their reply (as I am not subscribed), I would be very grateful. I am running a Debian Squeeze system. I want to install selected packages from debian-multimedia and grml on it. Furthermore, I don't trust Opera Software ASA completely, and therefore want to make sure no packages of theirs are installed over packages available from anywhere else. As a secondary goal, I want to use my ISP's mirror whereever possible, to avoid unnecessary internet traffic. Allow me to post my attempts to configure this: === Begin /etc/apt/sources.list === deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/debian squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/debian sid main deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ squeeze non-free deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/debian-multimedia.org squeeze main deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/www.grml.org/deb.grml.org/ grml-testing main === End /etc/apt/sources.list === === Begin /etc/apt/preferences === Package: * Pin: release o=The grml project Pin-Priority: 400 Package: * Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages Pin-Priority: 400 Package: * Pin: origin deb.opera.com Pin-Priority: 300 === End /etc/apt/preferences === === Begin output of apt-cache policy === Package files: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now 400 http://mirror.netcologne.de grml-testing/main Packages release o=The grml project,a=grml-testing,n=grml-testing,l=grml,c=main origin mirror.netcologne.de 500 http://mirror.netcologne.de squeeze/main Translation-en_US 990 http://mirror.netcologne.de squeeze/main Packages release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main origin mirror.netcologne.de 990 http://deb.opera.com squeeze/non-free Packages release o=Opera Software ASA,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=The Opera web browser,c=non-free origin deb.opera.com 500 http://mirror.netcologne.de sid/main Packages release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main origin mirror.netcologne.de 990 http://mirror.netcologne.de squeeze/non-free Packages release o=Debian,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=non-free origin mirror.netcologne.de 990 http://mirror.netcologne.de squeeze/contrib Packages release o=Debian,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=contrib origin mirror.netcologne.de 990 http://mirror.netcologne.de squeeze/main Packages release o=Debian,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=main origin mirror.netcologne.de Pinned packages: === End output of apt-cache policy === As you can see, I failed miserably. The very same method that works fine for the grml packages, fails for the debian-multimedia packages. I have also tried "l=" instead of "o=", as well as copy&pasting the complete release line from the output of apt-cache policy. I have tried using double quote characters. I have tried changing the order of grml and debian-multimedia in the preferences file. I have run aptitude update or apt-get update after every change. Nothing works. For Opera, I have not invested quite as much effort, especially since I specifically want the "origin" feature, not the "release" feature, to work here; however, "release o=Opera Software ASA" also does not work, nor does adding double-quotes around "deb.opera.com". So if anyone understands APT pinning... please help me! Regards, Michael PS Again, please CC me, I am not subscribed to this list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. on 27 Jan 2010 17:50 On Wednesday 27 January 2010 14:41:00 Michael Goetze wrote: > I've struggled with this issue for hours and gotten no help from > Manpages, nor IRC. So if someone could help me and CC me on their reply > (as I am not subscribed), I would be very grateful. Try here: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences And then review my personal setup: http://iguanasuicide.net/node/4 (apt-cache policy) is good for reviewing your active pinning and gives some information you might find useful for writing the best "Pin:" line. (apt-cache policy $package) is also good for individual packages. Any specific questions after that, you can contact me via PM and I also watch the list. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss(a)iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
From: Javier Barroso on 28 Jan 2010 16:40 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Michael Goetze <mgoetze(a)mgoetze.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I've struggled with this issue for hours and gotten no help from Manpages, > nor IRC. So if someone could help me and CC me on their reply (as I am not > subscribed), I would be very grateful. > > I am running a Debian Squeeze system. I want to install selected packages > from debian-multimedia and grml on it. Furthermore, I don't trust Opera > Software ASA completely, and therefore want to make sure no packages of > theirs are installed over packages available from anywhere else. As a > secondary goal, I want to use my ISP's mirror whereever possible, to avoid > unnecessary internet traffic. Allow me to post my attempts to configure > this: > > === Begin /etc/apt/sources.list === > deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/debian squeeze main contrib non-free > deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/debian sid main > deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ squeeze non-free > deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/debian-multimedia.org squeeze main > deb http://mirror.netcologne.de/www.grml.org/deb.grml.org/ grml-testing main > === End /etc/apt/sources.list === > === Begin /etc/apt/preferences === > Package: * > Pin: release o=The grml project > Pin-Priority: 400 > > Package: * > Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages Does help Pin: release o=Unofficial* ? I don't sure, maybe this is a space character issue ? Did you test with quotes ? Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Michael Goetze on 31 Jan 2010 12:50 Hi Javier, > Does help Pin: release o=Unofficial* ? > > I don't sure, maybe this is a space character issue ? Did you test with quotes ? Unfortunately, the suggested line doesn't help. As I already wrote: > I have also tried "l=" instead of "o=", as well as copy&pasting the > complete release line from the output of apt-cache policy. I have > tried using double quote characters. Regards, Michael PS Please CC me on replies... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. on 31 Jan 2010 13:00
In <4B60A4DC.2030405(a)mgoetze.net>, Michael Goetze wrote: >I've struggled with this issue for hours and gotten no help from >Manpages, nor IRC. So if someone could help me and CC me on their reply >(as I am not subscribed), I would be very grateful. > >=== Begin /etc/apt/preferences === [...] >Package: * >Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages >Pin-Priority: 400 > >Package: * >Pin: origin deb.opera.com >Pin-Priority: 300 >=== End /etc/apt/preferences === >=== Begin output of apt-cache policy === >Package files: [...] > 990 http://mirror.netcologne.de squeeze/main Packages > release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia >Packages,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main > origin mirror.netcologne.de > 990 http://deb.opera.com squeeze/non-free Packages > release o=Opera Software ASA,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=The Opera web >browser,c=non-free > origin deb.opera.com [...] >=== End output of apt-cache policy === > >As you can see, I failed miserably. The very same method that works fine >for the grml packages, fails for the debian-multimedia packages. I have >also tried "l=" instead of "o=", as well as copy&pasting the complete >release line from the output of apt-cache policy. I have tried using >double quote characters. I have tried changing the order of grml and >debian-multimedia in the preferences file. I have run aptitude update or >apt-get update after every change. Nothing works. >For Opera, I have not invested quite as much effort, especially since I >specifically want the "origin" feature, not the "release" feature, to >work here; however, "release o=Opera Software ASA" also does not work, >nor does adding double-quotes around "deb.opera.com". I think in both these cases you are being bit by having APT::Default-Release "testing" in /etc/apt/apt.conf(.d). The relevant quote from man 5 apt_preferences is "The target release can be set on the apt-get command line or in the APT configuration file /etc/apt/apt.conf. Note that this has precedence over any general priority you set in the /etc/apt/preferences file described later, but not over specifically pinned packages." Both the repositories you are having problems with use "a=testing" as part of their release. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss(a)iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ |