From: D from BC on 7 Feb 2010 04:09 In article <4b6d4519.1256281(a)news.tpg.com.au>, clausjensen(a)watermark.com says... > > I am thinking of trying "Press 'n Peel" film with the idea it would > be more reliable than the homemade toner release papers, etc. > > Can anyone who has used it, please report their good or bad > experiences? > > Any hints to obtain better results? > > Or is it not significantly better than the type of process described > here: > > http://gilmore2.chem.northwestern.edu/projects/garbz2_prj.php > > Claus Jensen I never got PnP to work reliably and consistantly. Maybe I was doing something wrong. And when I needed smaller detail, PnP became more of a hassle. I now make boards by laminating a photosensitive film and photoexposing.
From: Jon Slaughter on 7 Feb 2010 12:02 D from BC wrote: > In article <4b6d4519.1256281(a)news.tpg.com.au>, > clausjensen(a)watermark.com says... >> >> I am thinking of trying "Press 'n Peel" film with the idea it would >> be more reliable than the homemade toner release papers, etc. >> >> Can anyone who has used it, please report their good or bad >> experiences? >> >> Any hints to obtain better results? >> >> Or is it not significantly better than the type of process described >> here: >> >> http://gilmore2.chem.northwestern.edu/projects/garbz2_prj.php >> >> Claus Jensen > > I never got PnP to work reliably and consistantly. > Maybe I was doing something wrong. > And when I needed smaller detail, PnP became more of a hassle. > I now make boards by laminating a photosensitive film and > photoexposing. Where do you get the film from?
From: Leon on 7 Feb 2010 13:29 On 6 Feb, 10:38, clausjen...(a)watermark.com (Claus Jensen) wrote: > I am thinking of trying "Press 'n Peel" film with the idea it would > be more reliable than the homemade toner release papers, etc. > > Can anyone who has used it, please report their good or bad > experiences? > > Any hints to obtain better results? > > Or is it not significantly better than the type of process described > here: > > http://gilmore2.chem.northwestern.edu/projects/garbz2_prj.php > > Claus Jensen I get excellent results (down to 8/8 mil) with the standard photo-etch process. Leon
From: D from BC on 7 Feb 2010 14:38 In article <hkmrn1$q72$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Jon_Slaughter(a)Hotmail.com says... > > D from BC wrote: > > In article <4b6d4519.1256281(a)news.tpg.com.au>, > > clausjensen(a)watermark.com says... > >> > >> I am thinking of trying "Press 'n Peel" film with the idea it would > >> be more reliable than the homemade toner release papers, etc. > >> > >> Can anyone who has used it, please report their good or bad > >> experiences? > >> > >> Any hints to obtain better results? > >> > >> Or is it not significantly better than the type of process described > >> here: > >> > >> http://gilmore2.chem.northwestern.edu/projects/garbz2_prj.php > >> > >> Claus Jensen > > > > I never got PnP to work reliably and consistantly. > > Maybe I was doing something wrong. > > And when I needed smaller detail, PnP became more of a hassle. > > I now make boards by laminating a photosensitive film and > > photoexposing. > > Where do you get the film from? http://www.capefearpress.com/order.html -- D from BC British Columbia
From: JosephKK on 7 Feb 2010 14:51 On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:47:15 GMT, clausjensen(a)watermark.com (Claus Jensen) wrote: >On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:41:57 -0500, Jamie ><jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> wrote: > >> But one thing to note, I have found that on any >>approach that you use, if you don't first heat the board >> a little in a toaster oven or hot air gun prior to applying the >>image to the clad, you may get spotty results here and there.. >> >> The heating does 2 things, dries the surface and gets it hot >>so the toner can stick better. >> >> I have done this with direct paper on the board with great >>results. Just soak off afterwards. But photo inkjet (glossy) is >>my primary paper, from printer to board. >> > >Has anyone tried running the paper through the printer twice, eg. >over-printing the image, to get more laser toner onto the paper? > >Could be a registration problem, but may be acceptable for larger >patterns. A few tries and one is bound to be close. > >Claus Jensen Though it is not discussed in your link or Gootee's page it has been reported to help when you have large copper areas.
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