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From: Michael H. Phillips on 6 May 2010 07:58
Setting up this new Mac Pro, I discover that Appletalk is no longer. I can't
persuade the Pro to talk to my printer, an Epson ALC1900PS, via IPP, LPD or
HP Jetdirect. No problems with the G5 and Appletalk.

I dimly remember when first setting up the Epson that there was a compelling
reason to use Ethernet rather than USB but can't, for the life of me,
remember what it was. It's nothing to do with networking, as I'm the only
user. I don't think it was speed.

The manuals for the printer and the Adobe PostScript module total about 500
pages and, to be honest, I'm too lazy to search through them.

Connecting by USB to the Pro is a doddle as Software Update downloads and
installs the current driver, though not the PostScript PPD, and it's up and
running in seconds. Am I missing out on something by not using Ethernet
though?

Anyone know what it might be?

--
Michael

mhphillips at gmail dot com

From: Adrian on 6 May 2010 08:05
Michael H. Phillips <mhp(a)odtaa.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

> Am I missing out on something by not using Ethernet though?
>
> Anyone know what it might be?

If you're the only user, then - no - just USB it.
From: Michael H. Phillips on 6 May 2010 11:16
On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:05:14 +0100, Adrian wrote:

> Michael H. Phillips <mhp(a)odtaa.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>> Am I missing out on something by not using Ethernet though?
>>
>> Anyone know what it might be?
>
> If you're the only user, then - no - just USB it.

It has now been USB'd and is working away happily.

--
Michael

mhphillips at gmail dot com

From: Rowland McDonnell on 6 May 2010 13:23
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> Michael H. Phillips <mhp(a)odtaa.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Setting up this new Mac Pro, I discover that Appletalk is no longer. I can't
> >persuade the Pro to talk to my printer, an Epson ALC1900PS, via IPP, LPD or
> >HP Jetdirect. No problems with the G5 and Appletalk.
> >
> >I dimly remember when first setting up the Epson that there was a compelling
> >reason to use Ethernet rather than USB but can't, for the life of me,
> >remember what it was. It's nothing to do with networking, as I'm the only
> >user. I don't think it was speed.
>
> The prime benefit of using Ethernet is sharing - you don't need the
> host computer to be powered up, because there isn't one! For you, that
> doesn't matter.
>
> The secondary benefit is that Ethernet allows a lot more latitude in
> where you put the printer, rather than the 4.5m limit of a USB cable.
>
> I can't think of a third one.

Speed, if you happen to have a printer with a `proper' Ethernet port
rather than `Ethernet as a front end to the old RS232 serial port input'
that my HP 1320n is fitted with.

As it is, the fastest printer I've ever had hooked up to my Mac in terms
of data transfer was my old HP DeskWriter 520, LocalTalk, System 6/7
era.

The (fairly) modern 10/100 Mbit/s Ethernet HP LaserJet 1320n has slower
data transfer - yep, fewer bits per second. Seems to average at ooh,
about 130,000 bit/s, hence my guess at what's really in the box (and
about half the speed of LocalTalk).

Rowland.

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From: Fred McKenzie on 6 May 2010 13:31
In article <hruasf$lv5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michael H. Phillips <mhp(a)odtaa.invalid> wrote:

> Am I missing out on something by not using Ethernet
> though?

Michael-

Can the printer be reconfigured to obtain an IP address either manually
or via DHCP? If not, you may not be able to use it on Ethernet without
AppleTalk capability.

As I see it, the advantage of Ethernet is the ability to share the
printer on the network, among several users. To do that via USB, you
either need something like an HP Jet-Direct printer server, or set up a
dedicated Mac to share it.

Fred
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