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From: Tony Toews on 28 Jun 2010 22:03 On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:20:22 -0700, Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote: ># CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA Speaking of APPDATA almost data in the APPDATA is settings or "temporary" files which can be ignored if a hard drive starts to fail. After all most applications store genuine user data, such as photos, documents, Excel files, ec in My Documents. And people know to do a backup of My Documents. Ok, only once a year maybe if that but people know about it. WIth two exceptiosn. Outlook and Outlook Express. For some unknown reason MS puts those in APPDATA. OE put it's data files stuff way inside in a GUID folder even as I found out last Thursday. <sigh> Tony -- Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/ Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/
From: Mayayana on 28 Jun 2010 22:50 | WIth two exceptiosn. Outlook and Outlook Express. For some unknown | reason MS puts those in APPDATA. OE put it's data files stuff way | inside in a GUID folder even as I found out last Thursday. <sigh> | Yes, and the parent folder is named with a GUID that must match the one in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\*. You can back up the OE files but you might need to adjust that GUID later unless you're replacing the system with a matching disk image. Then there are things like wallpaper, HOSTS file, bookmarks files for one or more browsers (which get saved in app data), OE address book (also in app data) file backup for the notable number of programs that save docs to their own private location by default, ISP/email settings, etc. I think all of the common wisdom about where to put files and where they get backed up is for corporate employees. They work with a limited number of specific programs like MS Word. Their admin. may back up their Docs folder. And that's all they really need. Other people who keep things in the Docs folder do it simply because they're unaware of how the whole thing works. Docs is on C drive. When the system crashes Docs is lost. It's really a bad idea in the first place. All the more so these days, with people having Windows AND all of their docs, photos, etc. on a single, 300 GB partition. The whole thing is needlessly lost if Windows goes south. I take the approach of leaving it to people to choose where to save files, so that they might possibly get the idea to take charge of the file system themselves, or at least know where their files are. Time and again I run into people who use Word, which saves to My Documents without asking, and those people have no idea where their files are. "Word knows". Which is fine...until the PC crashes.
From: Tony Toews on 28 Jun 2010 22:59 On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:50:41 -0400, "Mayayana" <mayayana(a)invalid.nospam> wrote: >| WIth two exceptiosn. Outlook and Outlook Express. For some unknown >| reason MS puts those in APPDATA. OE put it's data files stuff way >| inside in a GUID folder even as I found out last Thursday. <sigh> >| > > Yes, and the parent folder is named with >a GUID that must match the one in >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\*. Or you can explicitly name the folder in the Outlook/Outlook Express Profiles. Which I've done as I place those files inside the My Documents folder so the users back them up as well. >OE address book >(also in app data) Oh yeah, that's in a WAB file. I forgot about that one. The others well I'm not as concerned about. Thanks for remnding me about the bookmarks though. I should talk to that user tomorrow to see if that's a problem. Tony -- Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/ Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/
From: Kevin Provance on 28 Jun 2010 23:18 "Tony Toews" <ttoews(a)telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:2vii26p4nn76gq75c2trp68dsjcrca4q0m(a)4ax.com... : : The program should still be installed by an admin account to Program : Files. (However I've noticed that, among other things. Google Update : and Chrome are now putting exes in APPDATA which are user updatable. : Hmm, interesting. It appears MapPoint 2006 put some assembly DLLs in : there too.) I see this too sometimes. And until I read a reliable article from MSFT explaining why or encouraging that kind of behaviour, it's a sign of either malware or sloppy programming...or both. <g> IOW...DON'T DO IT MAN!!!! - K
From: Kevin Provance on 28 Jun 2010 23:21
"Tony Toews" <ttoews(a)telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:08oi2697ign00bp2jbb448v69g0gh6omae(a)4ax.com... : On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:50:41 -0400, "Mayayana" : <mayayana(a)invalid.nospam> wrote: : : : Oh yeah, that's in a WAB file. I forgot about that one. I found some samples the other day about reading and writing the WAB file through COM interfaces. It was a bit hackish, but it looked like it might work. |