From: tanix on
In article <u$QfEKHhKHA.2188(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Jonathan Wilson <jfwfreo(a)tpgi.com.au> wrote:
>> One more time: does anybody know if firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 uses some
>> kernel mode driver?

>The official distribution of Firefox does not include any kernel drivers.

Ok, thanx. In that case, I do not understand what is the issue
we are dealing with. Because about the only thing I can think
of that can lock up the box so bad is kernel mode drivers.

Or, as is the very purpose of this thread, the scheduler under
multi-core environments. Again, I am seeing this freeze only
on a multi-core environment under the same conditions.

Yes, the other drivers are not the same. But I just fail to
see how even video driver may have anything to do with it,
which is about the only relevant driver I can think of.

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From: tanix on
In article <44e92e4a-b0ee-451a-abd3-80438b52975f(a)b32g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Leo Davidson <leonudeldavidson(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 24, 7:18=A0am, ta...(a)mongo.net (tanix) wrote:
>> Cut it out. WHO says I am running SP2?
>> Where does it say it?
>
>I didn't say anything about you, I was replying to Boba who said this:
>
>"i will be glad to do it next time dexplore (to add one more to the
>list)
>freezes my xp_sp2 box."

Well, I noticed yesterday that there was some other guy
with some issue.

The thing is I started this thread and was under impression
we are dealing with the issue I brought up.

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In article <#AbolSLhKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>Get a manually initiated full crash dump.

There is no crash that I see.

It is a hang in some dead loop.
That is why it is taking 100% of your CPU.

I can not run this app under user level debugger.
I have to run it under kernel mode debugger
and waste all sorts of time to even see anything
that will give me any hope this thing is going to go away.

Because who cares about XP nowadays with all this win 7 hype?
Who is going to put it on high enough priority list
to get fixed?

>"Boba" <Boba(a)somewhere.net> wrote in message
>news:OhALS9ChKHA.5424(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Don Burn" <burn(a)stopspam.windrvr.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23Y9FRiChKHA.5608(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> ...
>>> Now you are stating the problem is Windows with no data other than the
>>> system hangs on this computer when a certain application is run, where is
>>> your data to show it is not a third party driver or even a driver
>>> embedded in the application.
>>
>> what type of data do you want me to publish? in what form?
>> i will be glad to do it next time dexplore (to add one more to the list)
>> freezes my xp_sp2 box. and i am afraid i know your next reply: oh, that
>> is such and such driver combination that causes the problem. i won't be
>> able to provide any dumps 'cause nothing is created. i can not make that
>> pc accessible from outside - it is a development machine. i'd love to
>> see the problem being solved, but i can not even contact ms regarding
>> the issue because that dexplore ended up installed by the 3rd party.
>>
>>
>
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From: Alexander Grigoriev on
See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc266483.aspx

Forcing a system crash from the keyboard. This allows to get a memory
snapsot for debugging. Zip and post it to some download site.

"tanix" <tanix(a)mongo.net> wrote in message
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> In article <#AbolSLhKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Alexander Grigoriev"
> <alegr(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Get a manually initiated full crash dump.
>
> There is no crash that I see.
>
> It is a hang in some dead loop.
> That is why it is taking 100% of your CPU.
>
> I can not run this app under user level debugger.
> I have to run it under kernel mode debugger
> and waste all sorts of time to even see anything
> that will give me any hope this thing is going to go away.
>
> Because who cares about XP nowadays with all this win 7 hype?
> Who is going to put it on high enough priority list
> to get fixed?
>


From: Alexander Grigoriev on
"tanix" <tanix(a)mongo.net> wrote in message
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> In article <uDL6mFKhKHA.3792(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Don Burn"
> <burn(a)stopspam.windrvr.com> wrote:
>>Gee you develop drivers for $250, which is what it costs to run a driver
>>through WHQL?
>
>
> What other choices do I have?
> To waste MONTHS of my time?
> Setup several machines?
> Go through headaches that even major manufacturers would
> try to avoid?
>

So you're saying you just want to release a driver that was never validated
against some standard tests?