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From: Russ (SBITS.Biz) [SBS-MVP] on 29 Jun 2010 02:52
It could be the card, what RAID card are you running?

In addition:
How much Memory do you have on the SBS?
(with Patches and everything 4GB is about the min for SBS2003 now)

Russ

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"Jeff Teel" <jdteel(a)RMoveThis sugardog.com> wrote in message
news:uwbVKdyFLHA.5448(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I have a Dell Poweredge SC 1420 that has SBS 2003 running on it. It is not
> a heavy use machine and has just 5 users that at most could have just 4
> people logged on at the same time. I recently had what I thought was a HD
> failure because the server seemed to loose network connectivity so I went
> to logon to the server desktop and could not because I could not get the
> logon screen to come up. The mouse moved but that was it. I then powered
> the system down by holding the power button in and restarted in safe mode,
> opened RSM and seen there had been a drive failure reported in the event
> log. I decided to purchase two new drives and make the C partition bigger
> because the original RAID 1 config only had a 20GB partition. I clean
> installed the OS (SBS 2003 SP1) and let it run for a few days with out
> getting it completely updated with MS updates and it ran fine. It booted
> quickly and didn't freeze or become unresponsive during that time. At that
> point I had not set up any Users or Computers because I wanted to see how
> everything was going to run. After a few days I did a restore of one of my
> backups. After the restore completed and the server restarted it got to
> Applying Computer Settings and that was it. I gave it a good two hours but
> it did not get past applying computer settings. I then powered the system
> down "held the power button in" and restarted in safe mode but during the
> BIOS boot time the RAID had been degraded. Both drives were optimal. I
> guess my question would be is there a service that is trashing the RAID
> that is not in the clean install that anyone may be aware of ? The days
> before this all started there had been not updates of any kind for Windows
> applied. Only Trend definitions. It seems to be very much like the problem
> with PowerChute Business Edition which needed updated a few years back
> because of an outdated certificate I believe only this seems to cause RAID
> problems too. I am able to rebuild the RAID and then boot again into Safe
> Mode and see that the array is ok.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
>
> Jeff
>
From: JT on 29 Jun 2010 14:37
It is an onboard CERC 1.5/2 Adaptec controller. As for memory it just has two
GB so I guess that may be an avenue to look at too. It's really an eye opener
loading a clean install of SBS 2003 SP1 and see that it only takes around 5GB
of HD space!

On another note my Exchange mailboxes only total around 500 MB. I don't know
if that would tie in with space issues regarding memory or not. But there is
no doubt that the system will function with a clean install of SBS 2003 SP1,
WSUS 3 SP2, ISA 2004. It's just hard to narrow down what causes it to hang
before it gets to the logon screen.

Thanks a bunch for your input Russ

"Russ (SBITS.Biz) [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> It could be the card, what RAID card are you running?
>
> In addition:
> How much Memory do you have on the SBS?
> (with Patches and everything 4GB is about the min for SBS2003 now)
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com
> Easy Redirect to Microsoft's New SBS Public Forum - www.SBSRepair.com
>
> "Jeff Teel" <jdteel(a)RMoveThis sugardog.com> wrote in message
> news:uwbVKdyFLHA.5448(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > I have a Dell Poweredge SC 1420 that has SBS 2003 running on it. It is not
> > a heavy use machine and has just 5 users that at most could have just 4
> > people logged on at the same time. I recently had what I thought was a HD
> > failure because the server seemed to loose network connectivity so I went
> > to logon to the server desktop and could not because I could not get the
> > logon screen to come up. The mouse moved but that was it. I then powered
> > the system down by holding the power button in and restarted in safe mode,
> > opened RSM and seen there had been a drive failure reported in the event
> > log. I decided to purchase two new drives and make the C partition bigger
> > because the original RAID 1 config only had a 20GB partition. I clean
> > installed the OS (SBS 2003 SP1) and let it run for a few days with out
> > getting it completely updated with MS updates and it ran fine. It booted
> > quickly and didn't freeze or become unresponsive during that time. At that
> > point I had not set up any Users or Computers because I wanted to see how
> > everything was going to run. After a few days I did a restore of one of my
> > backups. After the restore completed and the server restarted it got to
> > Applying Computer Settings and that was it. I gave it a good two hours but
> > it did not get past applying computer settings. I then powered the system
> > down "held the power button in" and restarted in safe mode but during the
> > BIOS boot time the RAID had been degraded. Both drives were optimal. I
> > guess my question would be is there a service that is trashing the RAID
> > that is not in the clean install that anyone may be aware of ? The days
> > before this all started there had been not updates of any kind for Windows
> > applied. Only Trend definitions. It seems to be very much like the problem
> > with PowerChute Business Edition which needed updated a few years back
> > because of an outdated certificate I believe only this seems to cause RAID
> > problems too. I am able to rebuild the RAID and then boot again into Safe
> > Mode and see that the array is ok.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
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