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From: Wolfgang Weisselberg on 26 Feb 2010 15:38 Cal Rollins <anywhere(a)anyplace.net> wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:12:28 +0100, Wolfgang Weisselberg > <ozcvgtt02(a)sneakemail.com> spewed his ignorance thusly: Gee, it's the LOL P&S troll, or it's twin. Goodbye slime ... PLONK -Wolfgang
From: Wolfgang Weisselberg on 27 Feb 2010 06:00 nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <dj2eo5hocnp5o4ab97bnj91b15vq7j12mg(a)4ax.com>, R Davis > <spamless(a)anon.com> wrote: >> That's one of the nice things about Photoline. You can configure every last >> command in that program to any short-cut key combo of your choice. > same with photoshop. Same with GIMP. In fact, you can teach GIMP everything you can teach Photoshop or Photoline --- and also those things no user could teach Photoline or Photoshop. -Wolfgang
From: Ray Fischer on 28 Feb 2010 14:14 Wolfgang Weisselberg <ozcvgtt02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote: >nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >> R Davis >>> That's one of the nice things about Photoline. You can configure every last >>> command in that program to any short-cut key combo of your choice. > >> same with photoshop. > >Same with GIMP. In fact, you can teach GIMP everything you can >teach Photoshop or Photoline --- and also those things no user >could teach Photoline or Photoshop. Gee, I have development tools on my computer. I could develop a new Photoshop! -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: C J Campbell on 1 Mar 2010 10:26 On 2010-02-23 05:52:34 -0700, Alan Lichtenstein <arl(a)erols.com> said: > I'm a neophyte as far as digital photography is concerned, however, > after having purchased my dSLR three years ago and finally deciding > that I ought to learn how to use it, realized that photography can be > very rewarding and interesting. Keeping in mind that I am still a > neophyte, I am considering purchasing a processing program. The > majority of salespeople in the camera store that I deal with, knowing > that I am a neophyte, recommended either Lightroom or Aperature. Are > there any recommendations that may help me? I take it that you are a Mac user (or you would not be considering Aperture), so a lot of freeware like Picasa is out (as is most of the advice you have been given so far). On the other hand, iPhoto is good at managing workflow and basic editing. I use Aperture, which has recently been upgraded to Aperture 3. The upgrade process is buggy, but that should not bother you since you would be starting from scratch. I like Lightroom and I consider it slightly more capable than Aperture but saddled with an inferior interface. Aperture is really a shell program. You can do 99% of anything you can do in Photoshop, including HDR, with the proper set of plugins. And you can do it with far less fuss and bother. Hydra is a popular HDR plugin that will handle up to 10 exposures. It is important when choosing plugins that you make sure they will support Aperture 3's 64 bit processing. Many plugins will not and they will cause Aperture to crash. Whatever software you get, take a good look at Nik Software's plugins for it. These will make your life a lot easier and give you control that would require many layers in Photoshop to duplicate, if they could be duplicated at all. I would not bother with Photoshop Elements. If you need Photoshop, get the full package and start talking to people like Kevin Kubota... > > Additionally, if in your comments, you can comment on how each program > provides for HDR that would be appreciated, although from my reading, > it does seem that there are other programs which will do that well. > Also, can anyone recommend a basic book on HDR, low on technical > aspects and easy on explanations, for a beginner? There was an article in a recent issue of Outdoor Photography which covered it very simply. HDR has a bad rep because it is either overdone or applied inappropriately. Used wisely it can be a powerful tool. The only way to learn HDR is with practice. The method is pretty simple: take a few exposures of the same scene at different exposures and merge them using your HDR software. The trick is in knowing what exposures to take in the first place. If you have the time, take a whole bunch, then choose a few to merge and see if you like the result. > > Any advice will be appreciated. Some people have said that Lightroom and Aperture are not substitutes for Photoshop. They aren't. However, they are far better than Photoshop for editing your pictures: adjusting exposure (even in small areas), retouching, color balance, sharpening, etc. Photoshop will allow you to go beyond editing into manipulating your photos: distorting them to fit spheres or masking them into unusual shapes such as words. However, if all you want to do is make your pictures look better, use a real editing program like Aperture, Lightroom, or Nikon Capture NX2 (which I also use). -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor
From: nospam on 1 Mar 2010 12:04
In article <2010030108264616807-christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmailcom>, C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I take it that you are a Mac user (or you would not be considering > Aperture), so a lot of freeware like Picasa is out (as is most of the > advice you have been given so far). On the other hand, iPhoto is good > at managing workflow and basic editing. there's a mac version of picasa and plenty of other software too. > I would not bother with Photoshop Elements. If you need Photoshop, get > the full package and start talking to people like Kevin Kubota... he doesn't need the full photoshop. |