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From: JLM on 4 May 2010 17:59
Hi, I work in a retail environment and we have an open software package
(Office H&S 2007). We need to find out the validity of the license key to see
if it is still sellable or not (May have been opened by one of our techs to
install as trial on another unit). So is there some kind of validity check to
see if the key has been used at all yet? Would hate to sell it and have a
customer come back saying it only allowed less than 3 installs.

Installing is not an option, because that means we would be using the key,
hence making the product unsellable.
From: LD5SZRA on 4 May 2010 18:20

No there is no such check and in fact you are abusing your
position to use retail versions as "trial" versions when in fact
not only Microsoft gives all bonafide retailers a copy for such
purposes but also there were trial versions on its website for
people to download.

Have you kept a record of these software you have used so that you
don't sell them to customers who would suffer otherwise because of
your stupidity!

hth


JLM wrote:
>
> Hi, I work in a retail environment and we have an open software package
> (Office H&S 2007). We need to find out the validity of the license key to see
> if it is still sellable or not (May have been opened by one of our techs to
> install as trial on another unit). So is there some kind of validity check to
> see if the key has been used at all yet? Would hate to sell it and have a
> customer come back saying it only allowed less than 3 installs.
>
> Installing is not an option, because that means we would be using the key,
> hence making the product unsellable.

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FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD5SZRA
OR ITS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER
INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF
BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD5SZRA OR ITS
ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

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From: LVTravel on 4 May 2010 22:02


"JLM" <JLM(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7D8B77BB-1890-4A0A-891A-62B73FEB06B9(a)microsoft.com...
> Hi, I work in a retail environment and we have an open software package
> (Office H&S 2007). We need to find out the validity of the license key to
> see
> if it is still sellable or not (May have been opened by one of our techs
> to
> install as trial on another unit). So is there some kind of validity check
> to
> see if the key has been used at all yet? Would hate to sell it and have a
> customer come back saying it only allowed less than 3 installs.
>
> Installing is not an option, because that means we would be using the key,
> hence making the product unsellable.

As you noted the license would allow for three installs. There is NO
validity check available online or through the telephone with Microsoft.

Even if the license has been used and it has been more than 180 days (IIRC
on the time) the license should be able to be activated on all three
computers without any telephone support necessary. If the license was
activated less than 180 days the new owner would have to contact MS via the
telephone activation method which would "overwrite" the previous older
activation.

Sell it at a good discount with the customer being told that they may have
to use telephone activation. Ensure that the disk is in good shape and that
the activation key sticker is still on the slide-out tray. An informed
customer is a happy customer, especially since it is an opened package and
they can buy it cheap.

From: JLM on 4 May 2010 22:04
Thanks for calling me stupid. That helped alot.

One, installing from CD, not using the KEY, indeed is a trial and is not
illegal.

Once again, thanks for not being a troll, and providing such helpful
information.

:P

"LD5SZRA" wrote:

>
> No there is no such check and in fact you are abusing your
> position to use retail versions as "trial" versions when in fact
> not only Microsoft gives all bonafide retailers a copy for such
> purposes but also there were trial versions on its website for
> people to download.
>
> Have you kept a record of these software you have used so that you
> don't sell them to customers who would suffer otherwise because of
> your stupidity!
>
> hth
>
>
> JLM wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I work in a retail environment and we have an open software package
> > (Office H&S 2007). We need to find out the validity of the license key to see
> > if it is still sellable or not (May have been opened by one of our techs to
> > install as trial on another unit). So is there some kind of validity check to
> > see if the key has been used at all yet? Would hate to sell it and have a
> > customer come back saying it only allowed less than 3 installs.
> >
> > Installing is not an option, because that means we would be using the key,
> > hence making the product unsellable.
>
> --
> THE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY
> KIND. LD5SZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR
> IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND
> FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD5SZRA
> OR ITS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER
> INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF
> BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD5SZRA OR ITS
> ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
> DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
> LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
> DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.
>
> Copyright LD5SZRA 2010.
> .
>
From: JLM on 4 May 2010 23:00
Perfect, thanks LVTravel. Exactly the answer I needed.

"LVTravel" wrote:

>
>
> "JLM" <JLM(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7D8B77BB-1890-4A0A-891A-62B73FEB06B9(a)microsoft.com...
> > Hi, I work in a retail environment and we have an open software package
> > (Office H&S 2007). We need to find out the validity of the license key to
> > see
> > if it is still sellable or not (May have been opened by one of our techs
> > to
> > install as trial on another unit). So is there some kind of validity check
> > to
> > see if the key has been used at all yet? Would hate to sell it and have a
> > customer come back saying it only allowed less than 3 installs.
> >
> > Installing is not an option, because that means we would be using the key,
> > hence making the product unsellable.
>
> As you noted the license would allow for three installs. There is NO
> validity check available online or through the telephone with Microsoft.
>
> Even if the license has been used and it has been more than 180 days (IIRC
> on the time) the license should be able to be activated on all three
> computers without any telephone support necessary. If the license was
> activated less than 180 days the new owner would have to contact MS via the
> telephone activation method which would "overwrite" the previous older
> activation.
>
> Sell it at a good discount with the customer being told that they may have
> to use telephone activation. Ensure that the disk is in good shape and that
> the activation key sticker is still on the slide-out tray. An informed
> customer is a happy customer, especially since it is an opened package and
> they can buy it cheap.
>
> .
>
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