Proof that consciousness is NOT in the brain
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From: Uncle Al on 3 Jun 2010 19:08 Hawkman wrote: [snip 330 lines overall] > Consciousness is an achievement of the whole animal in its > environmental context. And to really understand it, you'd have to > study it that way. [snip] Helen Keller. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
From: Uncle Al on 3 Jun 2010 19:19 Hawkman wrote: [snip 330 lines overall] > Consciousness is an achievement of the whole animal in its > environmental context. And to really understand it, you'd have to > study it that way. [snip] 1) Helen Keller. 2) High autists. 3) Life support Pookie pookie -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
From: raven1 on 3 Jun 2010 19:27 On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Hawkman <worldspirit49(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Neuroscientists and other evolutionists teach and write that >consciousness is simply the synaptic firing in the brain. But that is >proved to not be the case at all. I didn't see any "proof", just 336 lines of assertions. Try again.
From: Richo on 3 Jun 2010 20:25 On Jun 4, 9:27 am, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Hawkman > > <worldspiri...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >Neuroscientists and other evolutionists teach and write that > >consciousness is simply the synaptic firing in the brain. But that is > >proved to not be the case at all. > > I didn't see any "proof", just 336 lines of assertions. Try again. Spot on Raven! I read the whole bloody thing! Assertions , argument from ignorance, argument from incredulity and argument from adverse consequence plus lots of hand-waving waffle! A ripoff. I want my 20 mins of life back! grrrrrr. Mark.
From: rick_s on 3 Jun 2010 13:46
In article <3ced5771-7a3e-4ad1-98b9-ac6099c7ed7e(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, worldspirit49(a)yahoo.com says... > >What role do you think the brain does play in consciousness? > Its like object ooriented programming where the data is generic, coded, and the brain has to put the information in context. Its as if the software for consciiousness was generic, could be used in any environmet, any world for that matter, any language, any circumstance, but the brain puts the data into local context. Keep in mind we are generalizing here because some functions of the brain are purely mechanical for mechanical purposes. Consciousness does not arise in the brain in a nueral net. We know that because there are people who have no cerebral cortex who are conscious. ref:Consciousness without a Cortex, a Challenge for Neuroscience. So where does it come from? Well it's a signal to the pineal gland. Software running in a conscious computer on two levels. Instinctual behaviors and sentience. They knew that in 1600. Some people still know that. But its a secret. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Glorification_of_the_E ucharist_-_Salimbeni.JPG Thats the moon, two antenna, and on the left the sentient signal and on the right, instinct. The signal is represented as a dove since this was 200 years before Hertz and Maxwell and Marconi. Is this the type of thing they could tech in school even if it is the truth which it is? |