Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion
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From: Socratis on 10 Jul 2010 17:02 "GSS" <gurcharn_sandhu(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:50ad2b40-c562-4b45-b9ba-791327139a03(a)k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com... Friends, Last year I had held detailed discussions in these forums, on the feasibility of experimental detection of absolute motion. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/browse_frm/thread/e24d067ec6a49db2/e45663e989aca999#e45663e989aca999 Subsequently I compiled a formal paper titled "Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion" and submitted to Physics Essays (An International Journal dedicated to fundamental questions in Physics) for publication. After a detailed peer review, this paper has now been published in this journal [http://www.physicsessays.com/]. The abstract of this paper is reproduced below. "According to special theory of relativity, all motion is relative and existence of any privileged or absolute inertial frame of reference, which could be practically distinguished from all other inertial frames, is ruled out." All you have to do is stand on the Earth and swing a bucket of water around in a circle. This shows an absolute frame, and no relativist can ever provide a coherent explaination.
From: Androcles on 10 Jul 2010 17:11 "Socratis" <socratis(a)alice.it> wrote in message news:i1an4q$98b$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... | "GSS" <gurcharn_sandhu(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:50ad2b40-c562-4b45-b9ba-791327139a03(a)k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com... | Friends, | Last year I had held detailed discussions in these forums, on | the feasibility of experimental detection of absolute motion. | http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/browse_frm/thread/e24d067ec6a49db2/e45663e989aca999#e45663e989aca999 | Subsequently I compiled a formal paper titled "Proposed experiment for | detection of absolute motion" and submitted to Physics Essays (An | International Journal dedicated to fundamental questions in Physics) | for publication. After a detailed peer review, this paper has now been | published in this journal [http://www.physicsessays.com/]. The | abstract of this paper is reproduced below. | | "According to special theory of relativity, all motion is relative | and existence of any privileged or absolute inertial frame of | reference, which could be practically distinguished from all other | inertial frames, is ruled out." | | All you have to do is stand on the Earth and swing a bucket of water | around in a circle. This shows an absolute frame, and no relativist | can ever provide a coherent explaination. | I'm not a relativist. Here is coherent explanation, no absolute frame needed. http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov
From: Michael Helland on 10 Jul 2010 17:15 On Jul 10, 9:57 am, GSS <gurcharn_san...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hello, congratulations. I know this probably took you a great deal of work, and you may feel short changed by my criticism, which obviously took a great deal less work, but I tell you me immediate concerns. > However, we may define an absolute or > universal reference frame as the one which is at rest with respect to > the center of mass of the universe and assume the speed c of > propagation of light to be an isotropic universal constant in that > frame. I think that what you are proposing here is not an experiment for detecting absolute motion, but a proposal for a definition of an absolute reference frame, one that I don't find particularly convincing. Why must the center of mass in the Universe be moving with respect to some absolute?
From: Sam Wormley on 10 Jul 2010 18:34 On 7/10/10 11:57 AM, GSS wrote: > Friends, > Last year I had held detailed discussions in these forums, on > the feasibility of experimental detection of absolute motion. > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/browse_frm/thread/e24d067ec6a49db2/e45663e989aca999#e45663e989aca999 > Subsequently I compiled a formal paper titled "Proposed experiment for > detection of absolute motion" and submitted to Physics Essays (An > International Journal dedicated to fundamental questions in Physics) > for publication. After a detailed peer review, this paper has now been > published in this journal [http://www.physicsessays.com/]. Hidden in the law of inertia is that fact the whether an object is in motion or not depends strictly on the point of view of the observer. Suggest learning some basic physics.
From: BURT on 10 Jul 2010 19:03
On Jul 10, 3:34 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/10/10 11:57 AM, GSS wrote: > > > Friends, > > Last year I had held detailed discussions in these forums, on > > the feasibility of experimental detection of absolute motion. > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/browse_frm/thread/e24d067ec6... > > Subsequently I compiled a formal paper titled "Proposed experiment for > > detection of absolute motion" and submitted to Physics Essays (An > > International Journal dedicated to fundamental questions in Physics) > > for publication. After a detailed peer review, this paper has now been > > published in this journal [http://www.physicsessays.com/]. > > Hidden in the law of inertia is that fact the whether an object is > in motion or not depends strictly on the point of view of the > observer. Suggest learning some basic physics. There is a space frame for absolute motion of matter and light. Mitch Raemsch |