Punctuation marks in file names
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From: Wayne C. Morris on 17 Jan 2010 13:22 In article <hiu1gc$t98$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, shine <useraddshine-nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Michelle Steiner took to the world wide interwebs to proclaim: > > Secondly, is there any other punctuation mark, other than the colon (and > > leading period), that cannot be used in a file name? > > Um, why would you want to use punctuation marks in a file name? Just to be > difficult? You might want to include dates in a sortable format: Quarterly Report 2009/01/01 - 2009/03/31 2009/07/16 - Suzie's birthday party Or you might be writing a book or movie, or have files from/about a book, movie, or person (MP3s, wallpapers, reviews, lists of collectibles, etc), and the proper name includes punctuation: 2001: A Space Odyssey "Weird Al" Yankovic Oh, God! Who Censored Roger Rabbit? Lilo & Stitch The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy Stargate SG-1 .hack//SIGN (The last is the title of an anime series.) One could find ways to type such names without punctuation, but in many cases it would be awkward, and it wouldn't be the _correct_ name.
From: Wes Groleau on 17 Jan 2010 14:18 shine wrote: > Wes Groleau took to the world wide interwebs to proclaim: >> Start your file names with a hyphen, or end them with a carriage return >> or space. Makes it hard for newbies to delete them. > > Which n00b? The owner of the files or other users on the Mac? Other > users can't delete them, anyway. If owner, why can't they delete them > easily? They created them. When you see "Wes Groleau" above and below a post, you should know there's a very good chance that at least part of it is tongue-in-cheek. I was sarcastically advising something that's not a good idea. Followed by the reason it's not a good idea. With the unspoken part being that it's happened to me more than once. Filenames of the sort I "suggested" are usually created by some sort of operator error in a shell command. They are not necessarily easily deleted by the same error, even assuming you could remember what the error was. I do know ways to delete all of those. But it took me a while to figure out those methods. -- Wes Groleau Free Reading in the FL Class http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1559
From: Wes Groleau on 17 Jan 2010 14:26 Wayne C. Morris wrote: > One could find ways to type such names without punctuation, but in many cases it > would be awkward, and it wouldn't be the _correct_ name. You have to make a choice. Awkward to create and awkward to read, or awkward to do anything else with? You can avoid both with only slightly more effort: There are lots of sortable date/time formats that don't contain slashes or colons. Some of them are not hard to read, such as 2009_11_27_1657. Instead of putting " or ' or ` in a filename, which is tricky for the shell, use ' ' “ ” Instead of a space in a filename, an underscore. (Non-breaking space might work, but underscore is better because it's visible.) -- Wes Groleau "Discussion" http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=44
From: Jolly Roger on 17 Jan 2010 15:06 In article <wayne.morris-C9E843.12220117012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris(a)this.is.invalid> wrote: > In article <hiu1gc$t98$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > shine <useraddshine-nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Michelle Steiner took to the world wide interwebs to proclaim: > > > Secondly, is there any other punctuation mark, other than the colon (and > > > leading period), that cannot be used in a file name? > > > > Um, why would you want to use punctuation marks in a file name? Just to be > > difficult? > > You might want to include dates in a sortable format: > > Quarterly Report 2009/01/01 - 2009/03/31 > 2009/07/16 - Suzie's birthday party For date sorting, I use these formats all the time: YYYYMMDD YYYY-MM-DD Works great. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Barry Margolin on 17 Jan 2010 20:08
In article <hiu1gc$t98$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, shine <useraddshine-nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Michelle Steiner took to the world wide interwebs to proclaim: > > Secondly, is there any other > > punctuation mark, other than the colon (and leading period), that cannot be > > used in a file name? > > Um, why would you want to use punctuation marks in a file name? Just to > be difficult? It's not uncommon to include dates in filenames. E.g. "Expenses 1/16/2010". -- Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** |