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From: Peter on 29 Jul 2010 09:04 "Outing Trolls is FUN!" <otif(a)trollouters.org> wrote in message news:bss256llums0iookl5pmbm77mdniedbq18(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:12:19 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> > wrote: > >>"Ben Dover" <bdover(a)somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:kj5256hk7ka0i9a3i48sjbnj892j748mv3(a)4ax.com... >> >>> Much of my fortune, upon which I retired at an early age, was from >>> drawing >>> and painting. I apply those artistic skills to my photography too. You >>> know >>> not of what you speak. Your example, again, has made that more than >>> perfectly clear. >> >> >> >>At $0.05, if that much, per image, how many did you sell. >>But then one person's garbage is another person's fortune. (with apologies >>to the proverb writer) > > Trolling for attention again with your manipulative thread-hijacking > tactics? Have you tried getting that bottomless attention deficit pit of > yours fulfilled using real people? What's that? Nobody will do that for > you? Figures. > Lost your mirror? -- Peter
From: tony cooper on 29 Jul 2010 11:42 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:28:01 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >news:3222565vno2q9gjbtt58s4o5691jqktocq(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:54:50 -0500, Ben Dover <bdover(a)somewhere.org> >> wrote: >> >>>>>First one is great, the shape of the wings is clear. >>>>>Try a square crop on it. >>>> >>>>A square crop would work, but not offer much in the way of >>>>improvement. Kinda iffy on square or rectangular on this one. >>> >>>A square composition would not work for this one. I knew that when I shot >>>it. Thanks for showing the whole world how little you know about >>>composition. >> >> Here's a squarish crop of a photograph I shot earlier today of a >> Four-Spotted Pennant dragonfly. Not a perfect square, but not in a >> standard rectangular ratio. >> >> >> http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/Current-Favorite-Shot/2010-07-28-001a/951118563_YFpsT-XL.jpg >> > > >Try flipping so that the body runs from lower left to upper right. >To my eye the composition strengthens. Generally, I prefer the leading space in an image to be on the side where the object faces if the object is the kind where a "face" is discernable. A "face" can be the side of an inanimate object as well as a living object. I have a slight preference for left-to-right photos with the leading space on the right. I also prefer the "face" of a diagonal object to be placed at the top where the diagonal runs from the lower part of the image to the higher part. General rules, not mandatory rules. In this photograph, there is no leading space side because I cropped more to the square than the rectangle. Your suggestion follows my other rule about the direction of a diagonal. However, the stem the dragonfly is resting on kinda requires the downward facing that I used. Try it, though. This image is not a "pride of the portfolio" image. The lower left-side wing is out of focus and the two extra branches don't help. Dragonflys are interesting mostly because the detail of the wings is delicate and pretty. Basically, a dragonfly photo is good if you catch the lacework of the wings and some body detail. You'll never get a really interesting dragonfly photo, though.* They don't _do_ anything interesting. I posted it because I went out yesterday with the specific intent of looking for an insect photograph which would lead to being best displayed with a square crop. Dragonflys are in abundance in this area if you go near water**. They are "snap and hope" shots, though, because they don't light long and the wings keep moving. I couldn't afford to shoot dragonflys on film and pay-per-shot. *Same with moth shots. They are never really interesting shots, so we judge them only by sharpness and background. They are in the category of "You did it right but it doesn't do anything for me" shots. **The same reasoning our troll shoots moths. My range includes areas of standing water and dragonflys, and his range is limited to his back yard around the porch light. I don't think he's ever ventured out beyond his mother's property line. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on 29 Jul 2010 15:53 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:1b6356tiace43rsj5la38tiqf26a3vhg5j(a)4ax.com... > **The same reasoning our troll shoots moths. My range includes areas > of standing water and dragonflys, and his range is limited to his back > yard around the porch light. I don't think he's ever ventured out > beyond his mother's property line. > Not even to go the the doctor? I had trouble finding a tree surgeon who would make a house call. -- Peter
From: Peter on 29 Jul 2010 15:51 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:1b6356tiace43rsj5la38tiqf26a3vhg5j(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:28:01 -0400, "Peter" > <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: > >>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>news:3222565vno2q9gjbtt58s4o5691jqktocq(a)4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:54:50 -0500, Ben Dover <bdover(a)somewhere.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>First one is great, the shape of the wings is clear. >>>>>>Try a square crop on it. >>>>> >>>>>A square crop would work, but not offer much in the way of >>>>>improvement. Kinda iffy on square or rectangular on this one. >>>> >>>>A square composition would not work for this one. I knew that when I >>>>shot >>>>it. Thanks for showing the whole world how little you know about >>>>composition. >>> >>> Here's a squarish crop of a photograph I shot earlier today of a >>> Four-Spotted Pennant dragonfly. Not a perfect square, but not in a >>> standard rectangular ratio. >>> >>> >>> http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/Current-Favorite-Shot/2010-07-28-001a/951118563_YFpsT-XL.jpg >>> >> >> >>Try flipping so that the body runs from lower left to upper right. >>To my eye the composition strengthens. > > Generally, I prefer the leading space in an image to be on the side > where the object faces if the object is the kind where a "face" is > discernable. A "face" can be the side of an inanimate object as well > as a living object. I have a slight preference for left-to-right > photos with the leading space on the right. > > I also prefer the "face" of a diagonal object to be placed at the top > where the diagonal runs from the lower part of the image to the higher > part. > > General rules, not mandatory rules. > > In this photograph, there is no leading space side because I cropped > more to the square than the rectangle. Your suggestion follows my > other rule about the direction of a diagonal. However, the stem the > dragonfly is resting on kinda requires the downward facing that I > used. Try it, though. I did before posting. I agree that the OOF branches can be a distraction. Application of a little puppet warp can solve the problem. > > This image is not a "pride of the portfolio" image. The lower > left-side wing is out of focus and the two extra branches don't help. > Dragonflys are interesting mostly because the detail of the wings is > delicate and pretty. Basically, a dragonfly photo is good if you > catch the lacework of the wings and some body detail. You'll never > get a really interesting dragonfly photo, though.* They don't _do_ > anything interesting. > > I posted it because I went out yesterday with the specific intent of > looking for an insect photograph which would lead to being best > displayed with a square crop. Dragonflys are in abundance in this > area if you go near water**. They are "snap and hope" shots, though, > because they don't light long and the wings keep moving. I couldn't > afford to shoot dragonflys on film and pay-per-shot. > -- Peter
From: Ofnuts on 29 Jul 2010 16:23
On 29/07/2010 21:53, Peter wrote: > "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:1b6356tiace43rsj5la38tiqf26a3vhg5j(a)4ax.com... > >> **The same reasoning our troll shoots moths. My range includes areas >> of standing water and dragonflys, and his range is limited to his back >> yard around the porch light. I don't think he's ever ventured out >> beyond his mother's property line. >> > > Not even to go the the doctor? > I had trouble finding a tree surgeon who would make a house call. Going to the doctor is admitting that nature is stronger than you. -- Bertrand |