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From: Daniel Fetchinson on 20 Nov 2009 05:52
>> The prime goal of 'phileas' is to enable html code to be seamlessly
>> included in python code in a natural looking syntax, without resorting
>> to templatng language.
>>
>> see:
>>
>> http://larry.myerscough.nl/phileas_project/
>>
>> I intend to submit phileas to the python.announce forum within the
>> next few days. Any feedback received now will be gratefully received
>> and may lead to improved quality of that submission.
>>
>
> Hi Larry, looks like interesting stuff!
>
> There appears to be a problem with this page:
>
> http://larry.myerscough.nl/show_python_source.py?script_filename=./MyPage.py
>
> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: './MyPage.py'
>
> I do like the idea of having a more Python-oriented way to generate
> HTML.

Have you guys considered markup.py from http://markup.sourceforge.net/
? It's comparable to your project as far as I can see, a more detailed
comparison would probably be useful.

Cheers,
Daniel


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From: J Kenneth King on 23 Nov 2009 10:37
papa hippo <hippostech(a)gmail.com> writes:

> On 20 nov, 09:02, Stefan Behnel <stefan...(a)behnel.de> wrote:
>> papa hippo, 19.11.2009 19:53:
>>
>> > The prime goal of 'phileas' is to enable html code to be seamlessly
>> > included in python code in a natural looking syntax, without resorting
>> > to templatng language.
>>
>> I assume you know XIST, ElementTree's ElementMaker, and all those other
>> ways of generating XML/HTML from Python code in a natural looking way?
>>
>> Stefan
>
> Hi Stefan,
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Yes, I am aware that phileas might - on the basis of the short
> description on this post - come across like a 're-invented wheel'.
> There is, however, one big difference between phileas and all other
> other similar packages (XIST, ELementTree, HTMLgen, HyperText,
> pyhtmloo etc.) that I inspected:
>
> Phileas uses distinct objects to generate each start and end tag,
> whereas all the others use a single function call (in some cases
> itself generated by a function call) to generate a complete well-
> formed element including start-tag and (where required) end-tag. In
> theory this is less neat and indeed it means one can write 'bad' HTML
> (e.g. missing end of paragraphs) with phileas just as easily as when
> writing pure html. In practice, however, I find it at a lot easier to
> use.
>
> While using pyhtmloo (my previous favourite HTML generator), I had
> found myself using awkward complicated artificial constructions in
> order to generate all but the simplest HTML - and spent much time
> playing 'hunt the missing bracket'. With phileas, these complexities
> seem to just fall away.

Any decent editor should be able to balance parenthesis for you.

>
> Put another way, Phileas generates HTML4.0 - warts and all; it is not
> a parser or generator of XML.
>
> I'm considering building in checks/warnings for unclosed elements
> etc., probably in the next-but-one pre-release.

That your library will require a validation to be executed at run-time
seems like it will be tedious to use.

A decent text editor can even balance your HTML tags for you.

Though you have a neat "DSL" like language for representing HTML
elements. I'd suggest taking it one step further and creating a
machine that can read in a Python data-structure and with as few hints
as possible wrap it in the appropriate tags.

>
> Larry
From: Aahz on 28 Nov 2009 22:01
In article <6ded5cc9-5491-43d3-849c-17fcfaaec85f(a)k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
papa hippo <hippostech(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>The prime goal of 'phileas' is to enable html code to be seamlessly
>included in python code in a natural looking syntax, without resorting
>to templatng language.
>
>see:
>
>http://larry.myerscough.nl/phileas_project/

Why would I want to use this instead of Quixote?
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