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From: Robert Baer on 8 Jun 2006 00:34 Zoned wrote: > AdAware SE cannot find spyware hidden by rootkits. > You will need to get one of the Anti Rootkit programs from > http://www.antirootkit.com to find what rootkits. > > regards > > Zoned > There seems to be nothing to support WinSE.
From: Robert Baer on 8 Jun 2006 00:41 Phil Weldon wrote: > "Robert Baer' wrote, in part: > | I am neither stupid nor ignorant. > | There is *no* "administrator" in Win98SE! > | In the dim dark ages 3+ years ago, i remember one could download > | Windows Media SDK for development work. > | None of the 3 mentioned functions are a part of Win98SE; if you can > | show me how to find any one of them beasties.... > _____ > > You did not mention your operating system in your original post. Since you > have Windows 98 SE just collapse my statement about who can access this > information to 'anyone who uses your computer'. ** That is me, myself and I; all three of us, period. > > #1. Windows 98 SE includes DirectX, of which 'Direct Draw' is a part, see > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4846c891-d45d-4122-8230-69f3e5ecdede&DisplayLang=en > . ** I see that i have DXDIAG, but nothing else, and since this is the first time i have heard of that, i obviously have not been using it (and will no. In fact, i think i will delete it and the DLLs from my HD. > > #2. Windows 98 SE includes Windows Media SDK, > from MSDN archives: > "Microsoft Management Console (MMC)-previously known by the code > name "Slate"-is an ISV-extensible, common console framework for management > applications. The MMC will be released as part of the next major release of > Windows NT. When released, MMC will run on both the Windows NT (4.0 and > later versions) and Windows? 95 operating systems (current and future > versions)." ** I translate that to "not on my computer". Correct? > > #3. Windows Media SDK, see > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/anch_winmedsdk.asp > . > > If the above is not sufficient for you, I suggest you use MSDN at > http://msdn1.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx . ** Ditto translation. > > Phil Weldon > > "Robert Baer" <robertbaer(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:W8whg.2673$lf4.1520(a)newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > | Phil Weldon wrote: > | > | > 'Robert Baer' wrote: > | > | I certainly do not have DirectDraw; it does not exist as a program > | > | anywhere on the hard drive! > | > _____ > | > > | > Yes, you do have the three FUNCTIONS ( Direct Draw, Management Console, > | > Windows Media SDK). > | > The three are not programs, but rather functions of the operating > system. > | > > | > The flags you got from Ad-Aware are advisory, not an indication of a > | > vulnerability. > | > That is why you found them listed under 'negligible objects'. > | > > | > Use 'Help' in Ad-Aware for the meaning of 'negligible objects': > | > "Objects shown here are not considered to be a threat. They consist > of > | > MRU (Most Recently Used items) lists. These can be removed if the user > | > desires." > | > > | > All 'Most Recently Used' entries are stored to allow functions like 'My > Most > | > Recent Documents'. > | > This information is available only to someone logged on to your computer > | > account or to an account with administrator privledges. > | > > | > Use Google to obtain information about 'Direct Draw', 'Windows > Management > | > Console', and 'Windows Media SDK'. > | > > | > Phil Weldon > | > > | > "Robert Baer" <robertbaer(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > | > news:RK7hg.2060$lp.1320(a)newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > | > . > | > | I certainly do not have DirectDraw; it does not exist as a program > | > | anywhere on the hard drive! > | > > | > > | I am neither stupid nor ignorant. > | There is *no* "administrator" in Win98SE! > | In the dim dark ages 3+ years ago, i remember one could download > | Windows Media SDK for development work. > | None of the 3 mentioned functions are a part of Win98SE; if you can > | show me how to find any one of them beasties.... > >
From: Robert Baer on 8 Jun 2006 00:48 Noel Paton wrote: > > "Zoned" <zoned(a)oceanfree.net> wrote in message > news:1149674531.547812.95730(a)i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> AdAware SE cannot find spyware hidden by rootkits. >> You will need to get one of the Anti Rootkit programs from >> http://www.antirootkit.com to find what rootkits. >> >> regards >> > > there is no such thing as a rootkit on Win9x systems > The whole OS is open to any user, so the OS itself could be considered a > rootikit (if it weren't for the invisibility aspect of rootkits) > True? No rootkits for Win98SE? They are so "advanced" that they cannot run on these older OSes?
From: Phil Weldon on 8 Jun 2006 10:21 'Robert Baer' wrote, in part: | ** I see that i have DXDIAG, but nothing else, and since this is the | first time i have heard of that, i obviously have not been using it (and | will no. | In fact, i think i will delete it and the DLLs from my HD. _____ Why bother to ask a question when you have no intention in accepting an answer? And why should anyone bother to answer? Just to close this off; | ** That is me, myself and I; all three of us, period. Anyone who sits down at your computer can access the Most Recently Used information; some users wish to delete MRU information to prevent that. | ** I translate that to "not on my computer". | Correct? No. | ** Ditto translation. No. Phil Weldon "Robert Baer" <robertbaer(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:FTNhg.3007$o4.1138(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... | Phil Weldon wrote: | | > "Robert Baer' wrote, in part: | > | I am neither stupid nor ignorant. | > | There is *no* "administrator" in Win98SE! | > | In the dim dark ages 3+ years ago, i remember one could download | > | Windows Media SDK for development work. | > | None of the 3 mentioned functions are a part of Win98SE; if you can | > | show me how to find any one of them beasties.... | > _____ | > | > You did not mention your operating system in your original post. Since you | > have Windows 98 SE just collapse my statement about who can access this | > information to 'anyone who uses your computer'. | ** That is me, myself and I; all three of us, period. | | > | > #1. Windows 98 SE includes DirectX, of which 'Direct Draw' is a part, see | > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4846c891-d45d-4122-8230-69f3e5ecdede&DisplayLang=en | > . | ** I see that i have DXDIAG, but nothing else, and since this is the | first time i have heard of that, i obviously have not been using it (and | will no. | In fact, i think i will delete it and the DLLs from my HD. | | > | > #2. Windows 98 SE includes Windows Media SDK, | > from MSDN archives: | > "Microsoft Management Console (MMC)-previously known by the code | > name "Slate"-is an ISV-extensible, common console framework for management | > applications. The MMC will be released as part of the next major release of | > Windows NT. When released, MMC will run on both the Windows NT (4.0 and | > later versions) and Windows? 95 operating systems (current and future | > versions)." | ** I translate that to "not on my computer". | Correct? | | > | > #3. Windows Media SDK, see | > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/anch_winmedsdk.asp | > . | > | > If the above is not sufficient for you, I suggest you use MSDN at | > http://msdn1.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx . | ** Ditto translation. | | > | > Phil Weldon
From: Robert Baer on 8 Jun 2006 21:04
Noel Paton wrote: > "Robert Baer" <robertbaer(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:L_Nhg.3019$o4.1241(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > >> Noel Paton wrote: >> >>> >>> "Zoned" <zoned(a)oceanfree.net> wrote in message >>> news:1149674531.547812.95730(a)i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>> AdAware SE cannot find spyware hidden by rootkits. >>>> You will need to get one of the Anti Rootkit programs from >>>> http://www.antirootkit.com to find what rootkits. >>>> >>>> regards >>>> >>> >>> there is no such thing as a rootkit on Win9x systems >>> The whole OS is open to any user, so the OS itself could be >>> considered a rootikit (if it weren't for the invisibility aspect of >>> rootkits) >>> >> True? >> No rootkits for Win98SE? >> They are so "advanced" that they cannot run on these older OSes? > > > The majority of rootkits (AIUI) rely on Alternate Data Streams (ADS) for > their stealth capability - and Win9x does not support ADS (witness the > fact that the WMF exploits that broke out at the new year affected only > the NT hierarchy of Windows, because the vulnerability was effectively > using ADS) > While the active files may be present, Windows 9x is effectively > incapable of accessing the routines within the files, and so remains > unaffected. > Thank you! Would ther be any way of finding those files / corrupted files? And then removing / fixing them? Any "worries" re the registry? |