From: Paul Willekens on
Hi JJ,

The ideal solution to your request is IMHO the HTA (html
application)...

Recommended previous knowledge:
o basic knowledge of HTML
o basic knowledge of VBS (or JS) scripting language
o basic knowledge of DHTML

But hey, those things are online available (references on Microsoft
website)

What I do with such HTA:
o read and write data from/to EXCEL and databases (ACCESS, MySql e.a.)
all in the same HTA
o read and write text from local and other disks
o put results in nice tabular form on the screen (no need of anything
else than standard Internet Explorer)
o start from sample scripts (on Microsoft website and other sources)
and further develop for own specific functionality
o edit source in notepad (when on someone else's computer) or in UEdit
(on my own pc): just plain text editor

If interested, I can give you links to the best reference and example
sites...

Have fun

Paul Willekens
From: cbcurl on
On Apr 21, 4:50 pm, Andrew Poelstra <apoels...(a)localhost.localdomain>
wrote:
> On 2010-04-21, cbcurl <cbc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 20, 4:20 pm, Andrew Poelstra <apoels...(a)localhost.localdomain>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2010-04-20, Lie Ryan <lie.1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The question is whether IE6 is a HTML web browser?
>
> >> No. Absolutely not. BUT, Internet Explorer was there first, and the
> >> standards body had an opportunity to see how they had implemented
> >> things, and how Mosaic/Netscape/Firefox/Opera/etc has implemented
> >> things, and see the pitfalls and successes of those approaches.
>
> > I am not sure what exactly you are claiming, but the HTML 1.0 spec
> > dates
> > from 1993 but IE did not come along until 1995. Of course, IE
> > extensions
> > did have influence on later versions of the standard.
>
> Who defined the HTML 1.0 standard before the W3C existed?

Tim Berners-Lee and Dan Connolly wrote the spec, and the first
standard was published by the IETF, as was the 2.0 version. The W3C
took over the standard in 1996.

> >> The thing that is easy to forget (especially after IE 6 come out and
> >> wouldn't die) is that Microsoft was here before the W3C, and the way
> >> they did things wasn't incorrect when they invented it.
>
> > Well, MS obviously existed before the W3C, which was started in 1994,
> > but IE did not which seems to be what you are claiming.
>
> I am claiming that IE predated web standards. I was wrong on
> that point (often I think like HTML started with version 4,
> but of course that is untrue).
>
> What I should have said is that IE's dynamic HTML predated
> any usable Javscript/DOM standard, since dynamic scripting
> is, after all, where browsers differ the most in their
> implementations.
>
> Am I correct?

Well, JavaScript first made its appearance in Netscape browsers in 95
and did not appear in IE until 96 (under the name JScript). While
there was no standard at that time, there is absolutely no doubt that
MS copied this feature and did not invent it.

I think there is also no question that both MS and Netscape extended
HTML in different ways and implemented different and incompatible
JavaScript APIs including the DOM.



From: cbcurl on
On Apr 20, 4:20 pm, Andrew Poelstra <apoels...(a)localhost.localdomain>
wrote:
> On 2010-04-20, Lie Ryan <lie.1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 04/20/10 14:22, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
> >> The real tragedy of that situation is that a number of Microsoft's
> >> non-standardisms are actually better than the equivalent "standard"
> >> features - i.e., selecting subsets of textboxes.
>
> >> Whether these inconsistent "features" were added because of
> >> Microsoft's standoff-ish attitude toward web standards, or
> >> some deeper prejudice, I don't know. But there are a number
> >> of cases where it was clear that the decision was not made
> >> based on technical merits.
>
> > The question is whether IE6 is a HTML web browser?
>
> No. Absolutely not. BUT, Internet Explorer was there first, and the
> standards body had an opportunity to see how they had implemented
> things, and how Mosaic/Netscape/Firefox/Opera/etc has implemented
> things, and see the pitfalls and successes of those approaches.

I am not sure what exactly you are claiming, but the HTML 1.0 spec
dates
from 1993 but IE did not come along until 1995. Of course, IE
extensions
did have influence on later versions of the standard.

> The thing that is easy to forget (especially after IE 6 come out and
> wouldn't die) is that Microsoft was here before the W3C, and the way
> they did things wasn't incorrect when they invented it.

Well, MS obviously existed before the W3C, which was started in 1994,
but IE did not which seems to be what you are claiming.