From: mpc755 on
On Mar 16, 2:21 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/16/10 1:06 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 16, 1:55 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 3/16/10 12:49 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>> On Mar 16, 1:31 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>    wrote:
> >>>> On 3/15/10 2:13 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>>>> In Aether Displacement, my theory, matter and aether are different
> >>>>> states of the same material.
>
> >>>>      If your Aether existed, one would be able to detect it
> >>>>      and measure measure its properties.
>
> >>> It is detectable. It is measurable. Every time a double slit
> >>> experiment is performed the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single
> >>> slit. It is the displacement wave in the aether the moving C-60
> >>> molecule makes in the aether which enters and exits the available
> >>> slits and creates interference upon exit the slits. This alters the
> >>> direction the C-60 molecule travels.
>
> >>     What are some of its measured properties and how were the
> >>     measurements made. Cite publications and/or governing equations.
>
> > Yes, the old I wish to remain ignorant so anything that has already
> > been calculated is correct no matter how nonsensical it is. The
> > delusional denial defense. Even though it is physically impossible for
> > a C-60 molecule to enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
> > simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a
> > change in momentum, that is not what is important. What is important
> > is the mathematics of QM are able to determine the type of
> > interference pattern the C-60 molecule creates.
>
> > Never mind what QM requires of the C-60 molecule is physically
> > impossible in nature. No, that is not what is important. For in QM, we
> > make stuff up like 'wave function probabilities' are physical. No
> > matter the fact that a wave function probability is a mathematical
> > construct. That is not what is important. What is important is the
> > ability to remain in a state of delusional denial.
>
> > Do you want to play the 'future determines the past' and other
> > nonsensical answers from the delusional denial QM club? And here we
> > go...
>
> > Detectors are placed at the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule
> > is in the slits. If the detectors are left at the exits the C-60
> > molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors
> > are placed and then removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60
> > molecule is in the slits the C-60 molecule creates and interference
> > pattern.
>
> > How is this possible?
>
> > Only one of your delusional denial club members has even offered up an
> > answer and the answer by your club member was the future determines
> > the past. You read that right. The C-60 molecule will enter one or
> > multiple slits depending upon there being, or not being, detectors at
> > the exits to the slits when it gets there in the future.
>
> > In AD, the C-60 molecule always enters a single slit and the
> > displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and
> > exits multiple slits. Detectors at the exits to the slits causes
> > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns the
> > wave into chop) and there is no interference. When the detectors are
> > removed prior to the C-60 molecule exiting the slit the displacement
> > wave exits the slits and creates interfere which alters the direction
> > the C-60 molecule travels.
>
> > Your answer?
>
>    I want to know some of your aether's measured properties and how
>    were the measurements made. Cite publications and/or governing
>    equations.

You haven't answered my question.

The C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the
slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. If the
detectors are at the exits to the slits when the C-60 molecule gets
there then the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit.

If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits
while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) then the C-60 molecule
creates an interference pattern.

How is this physically possible in the absurd nonsense of QM?

Is this what you consider science? You cannot answer a question so you
choose to exist in your state of delusional denial instead of
admitting you cannot answer the question unless you choose to believe
in absurd nonsense such as the future determines the past and the C-60
molecule enters a single slit or multiple slits depending upon there
being detectors at the exits to the slits when it gets there in the
future?

The most correct answer, to date, is the C-60 molecule has an
associated aether displacement wave and it is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The C-60
molecule always enters and exits a single slit. When the associated
aether displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference which
alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Placing detectors at
the exits to the slits causes decoherence of the associated aether
displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
interference.
From: John Duffield on
mpc: that C60 molecule is made out of aether displacement waves.
From: mpc755 on
On Mar 16, 12:04 pm, John Duffield <johnduffi...(a)btconnect.com> wrote:
> mpc: that C60 molecule is made out of aether displacement waves.

The C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the
slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. If the
detectors are at the exits to the slits when the C-60 molecule gets
there then the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit.

If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits
while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) then the C-60 molecule
creates an interference pattern.

How is this physically possible in your 'understanding' of nature?

The most correct answer, to date, is the C-60 molecule has an
associated aether displacement wave and it is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The C-60
molecule always enters and exits a single slit. When the associated
aether displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference which
alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Placing detectors at
the exits to the slits causes decoherence of the associated aether
displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
interference.
From: BURT on
On Mar 15, 11:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 1:55 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3/16/10 12:49 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 16, 1:31 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >> On 3/15/10 2:13 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > >>> In Aether Displacement, my theory, matter and aether are different
> > >>> states of the same material.
>
> > >>     If your Aether existed, one would be able to detect it
> > >>     and measure measure its properties.
>
> > > It is detectable. It is measurable. Every time a double slit
> > > experiment is performed the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single
> > > slit. It is the displacement wave in the aether the moving C-60
> > > molecule makes in the aether which enters and exits the available
> > > slits and creates interference upon exit the slits. This alters the
> > > direction the C-60 molecule travels.
>
> >    What are some of its measured properties and how were the
> >    measurements made. Cite publications and/or governing equations.
>
> Yes, the old I wish to remain ignorant so anything that has already
> been calculated is correct no matter how nonsensical it is. The
> delusional denial defense. Even though it is physically impossible for
> a C-60 molecule to enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
> simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a
> change in momentum, that is not what is important. What is important
> is the mathematics of QM are able to determine the type of
> interference pattern the C-60 molecule creates.
>
> Never mind what QM requires of the C-60 molecule is physically
> impossible in nature. No, that is not what is important. For in QM, we
> make stuff up like 'wave function probabilities' are physical. No
> matter the fact that a wave function probability is a mathematical
> construct. That is not what is important. What is important is the
> ability to remain in a state of delusional denial.
>
> Do you want to play the 'future determines the past' and other
> nonsensical answers from the delusional denial QM club? And here we
> go...
>
> Detectors are placed at the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule
> is in the slits. If the detectors are left at the exits the C-60
> molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors
> are placed and then removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60
> molecule is in the slits the C-60 molecule creates and interference
> pattern.
>
> How is this possible?
>
> Only one of your delusional denial club members has even offered up an
> answer and the answer by your club member was the future determines
> the past. You read that right. The C-60 molecule will enter one or
> multiple slits depending upon there being, or not being, detectors at
> the exits to the slits when it gets there in the future.
>
> In AD, the C-60 molecule always enters a single slit and the
> displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and
> exits multiple slits. Detectors at the exits to the slits causes
> decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns the
> wave into chop) and there is no interference. When the detectors are
> removed prior to the C-60 molecule exiting the slit the displacement
> wave exits the slits and creates interfere which alters the direction
> the C-60 molecule travels.
>
> Your answer?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

There are more than one size for the aether waves. There are three
sizes.
Subatomic atomic and macro.

Mitch Raemsch
From: kenseto on
On Mar 16, 10:48 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/16/10 8:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
>
> > Empty space by definition cannot have property. permittvity and
> > permeability are properties of a unique medium occupying space.
>
> > Ken Seto
>
>    Haven't you notice this property of space that it in expanding
>    at roughly 71 km/s/Mpc ?

Wormy it is not space that is expanding. It is the objects in the
medium that are moving apart wrt each other.