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From: Matt J on 25 Jul 2010 22:50 "Antony " <mutang.bing(a)gmail.com> wrote in message <i2irns$94i$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > I have another problem. Maybe we can not directly solve it and I think the result might be more complxe than my former problem. The problem is: > if g(x) = ||KX-B||^0.6 with all the other settings as the former problem, what is \partial{g}/\partial{x}? ======== This is equivalent to (||KX-B||^2)^0.3 So you can use your original result, with one more step of the chain rule leading to Gradient = 0.3*(||KX-B||^2)^(-.7) * 2*K'*(K*X-B)
From: Antony on 25 Jul 2010 23:01 "Matt J " <mattjacREMOVE(a)THISieee.spam> wrote in message <i2it4t$73b$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > "Antony " <mutang.bing(a)gmail.com> wrote in message <i2irns$94i$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > > > I have another problem. Maybe we can not directly solve it and I think the result might be more complxe than my former problem. The problem is: > > if g(x) = ||KX-B||^0.6 with all the other settings as the former problem, what is \partial{g}/\partial{x}? > ======== > > This is equivalent to (||KX-B||^2)^0.3 > > So you can use your original result, with one more step of the chain rule leading to > > Gradient = 0.3*(||KX-B||^2)^(-.7) * 2*K'*(K*X-B) Why not write it as Gradient = 0.3 *2*K'*(K*X-B)*(||KX-B||^2)^(-.7) according to the chain rule? It is because K'*(K*X-B) is a scalar and there is no difference between them? Thank you!
From: Matt J on 25 Jul 2010 23:04 "Antony " <mutang.bing(a)gmail.com> wrote in message <i2isv7$pi7$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > But, according to the chain rule, I may apply it to f(X)=||KX-B||^0.6 and obtain the result of the derivate as 0.6*K.'*(K*X-B)^{-0.4}? ====================== No, this wouldn't be the correct expression. From my last post, I get, after some simplification Gradient = 0.6*K.'*(K*X-B)/||K*X-B||^(1.4) >This result seems rather complex for some numerical optimization. ======================= Well, your objective function f(X)=||KX-B||^0.6 is unusually complex... For one thing, this function is not differentiable at points where K*X=B, which means that if the minimum lies there, you cannot use gradient-based approaches to find it.
From: Antony on 25 Jul 2010 23:33
"Matt J " <mattjacREMOVE(a)THISieee.spam> wrote in message <i2itv4$rr8$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > "Antony " <mutang.bing(a)gmail.com> wrote in message <i2isv7$pi7$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>... > > > But, according to the chain rule, I may apply it to f(X)=||KX-B||^0.6 and obtain the result of the derivate as 0.6*K.'*(K*X-B)^{-0.4}? > ====================== > > No, this wouldn't be the correct expression. From my last post, I get, after some simplification > > Gradient = 0.6*K.'*(K*X-B)/||K*X-B||^(1.4) > > > >This result seems rather complex for some numerical optimization. > ======================= > > Well, your objective function f(X)=||KX-B||^0.6 is unusually complex... > > For one thing, this function is not differentiable at points where K*X=B, which means that if the minimum lies there, you cannot use gradient-based approaches to find it. Dear Matt, thank a lot for your time in my question. I appreciate your help! I understand the difficulties of such type of optimization problems now. This might be the reason that papers always figure out another efficient solutions to such type of non-convex problems. Thanks again! Also, thanks a lot for all other guys' kind and patient helps, especially to Roger Stafford and Brian Borchers. Antony |