From: Camaleón on
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:37:14 -0200, Rogério Brito wrote:


(...)

> * And, finally, but very important, something that is fully supported by
> Free Software only. I want to get a system where I can run Debian with
> Linux as a kernel and, it would be fantastically nice if it could, work
> acceptably with Debian with the FreeBSD kernel.
>
> As I stated above, I have no predilection for manufacturer and I may go
> with Intel or AMD. Some of the options that are available at the
> manufacturer's sites don't seem to target users like myself:
>
> Asus P7P55D-E Premium, Maximus III Formula, Maximus III GENE, MSI
> 790GX-G65 etc, etc.

Well, your angle is too wide for we can reply with a concrete proposal.

I think any system in the market will fit your needs... unless you buy
some special piece of unsupported hardware :-)

- For standard use, I like MSI and Gigabyte motherboards.
- 8 GB should be fine.
- CPU, AMD Phenom or Intel QuadCore
- VGA, this is a difficult one. Nowadays they come with noisy fans or
getting two slots, which I don't like at all. Anyway, nvidia would be a
right choice.
- A "do it yourself" approach will let you to select the best components
at the best prize. I will go that path.

> Is there anybody that could shed some light with recommendations?

This is getting a recurring question in this list. Maybe it's time for
Debian to get a HCL page so people can start looking-up there O:-)

Greetings,

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From: John Allen on
On 13/12/09 21:37, Rog�rio Brito wrote:
> Hi, All.
>
> I would like to purchase a new system to replace my current Desktop.
>
> Unfortunately, it seems that getting some new hardware is not as easy, due to a
> multitude of unavailable drivers for Free Operating systems or differences
> regarding the role of the systems.
>
> It seems that most sites where hardware is discussed (say, slashdot,
> tomshardware, arstechnica and similars) as well as vendor sites (e.g., Asus, MSI
> etc) seem to aim at the "Gamer" person.
>
> I was reading some reviews and I am confused regarding getting a new Desktop and
> I would sincerely appreciate some help.
>
> I did a bit of homework, and some of my choices seem to be hard to satisfy, but
> they seem to be quite mundane (at least, I would be lead to think so):
>
> * I would like to have a moderately powerful CPU (regardless of manufacturer).
> Perhaps a 4-core to use as a build constantly programs (I am a Maintainer of
> some packages in Debian and I would like to take action on some big packages and
> do some QA work).
>
>
1 x http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=480481
1 x http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=451982
> * Besides the CPU, I would like to have a reasonable amount of memory (perhaps
> 8GB of memory). Again, no preferred brands here.
>
>
2 x http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=347969
> * I have no need for dual graphics cards or anything fancy. I video necessities
> are, at most, playing a video and nothing much. I use fluxbox as my Window
> Manager and I don't see me changing it in the future.
>
>
1 x http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=420091 (fanless)
> What all this means is that I am more inclined to take money from a fast
> graphics card and put it in a CPU (I saw that some video cards are *really*
> expensive!).
>
> * I prefer to assemble the system myself (since this is the cheaper route), but
> as the last system that I built was in 1999, I'm not that up-to-date with the
> newer technologies. I have no fear of learning things, though.
>
> * And, finally, but very important, something that is fully supported by Free
> Software only. I want to get a system where I can run Debian with Linux as a
> kernel and, it would be fantastically nice if it could, work acceptably with
> Debian with the FreeBSD kernel.
>
>
The above components is what I have in my development machines,
works fine with Debian & Ubuntu.
> As I stated above, I have no predilection for manufacturer and I may go with
> Intel or AMD. Some of the options that are available at the manufacturer's sites
> don't seem to target users like myself:
>
> Asus P7P55D-E Premium, Maximus III Formula, Maximus III GENE, MSI 790GX-G65 etc,
> etc.
>
> Is there anybody that could shed some light with recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thank you very much, Rog�rio Brito.
>
>


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From: Celejar on
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:17:59 +0100
Sven Joachim <svenjoac(a)gmx.de> wrote:

....

> Be sure to avoid Nvidia graphics cards then. The best bet is probably to use
> Intel graphics, *except* GMA500¹. Thanks to KMS², switching from X to a
> virtual console and back is as fast as switching workspaces, and
> resuming/suspending works without a hitch on my laptop.

But as I mentioned in another message in this thread, KMS is apparently
badly broken on my Intel 945GM:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25681

Celejar
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