REQ: Transfer email between email providers
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From: Stalker-AmA on 22 Jul 2010 09:01 I'm looking for free tool/service similar to this one http://www.yippiemove.com/ -- Stalker @ Amnezja
From: Stalker-AmA on 22 Jul 2010 09:48 "Yrrah" <Yrrah-acf(a)acf.invalid> wrote in message news:nsgg461o69tu6efa5ddpgruvnshjn6rphj(a)net.com... > "Stalker-AmA" <ftpkonto(a)02.pl>: > >> I'm looking for free tool/service similar to this one > > Too lazy to write down your wishes and requirements here? > Looks like you are not asking about free software anyway. cant help ? dont waste my time and bandwidth. *PLONK* -- Stalker @ Amnezja
From: HeyBub on 22 Jul 2010 11:28 Stalker-AmA wrote: > "Yrrah" <Yrrah-acf(a)acf.invalid> wrote in message > news:nsgg461o69tu6efa5ddpgruvnshjn6rphj(a)net.com... >> "Stalker-AmA" <ftpkonto(a)02.pl>: >> >>> I'm looking for free tool/service similar to this one >> >> Too lazy to write down your wishes and requirements here? >> Looks like you are not asking about free software anyway. > > cant help ? dont waste my time and bandwidth. > > *PLONK* In future, when referring to "bandwidth," please abbreviate it as "bndwth" thereby saving precious bndwth. Thnks.
From: VanguardLH on 22 Jul 2010 12:50 Stalker-AmA wrote: > I'm looking for free tool/service similar to this one > http://www.yippiemove.com/ Um, so their "servers" act like your client when retrieving e-mails. Uh huh, so why can't YOU do that? Obviously they need your login credentials for both accounts but what they do (on a large scale for many accounts; 20,000 emails with 20.0 GB total transfer) is also what you can do (on a small scale for an account or two). To get e-mails off one server to another server means SENDING it. So you'll have to forward your e-mails from account #1 to account #2; however, that means the received e-mails at account #2 will show the headers when you sent the e-mail from account #1. They will NOT have the original headers. So don't forward inline (where only a few headers, like date and from are included in the body of your new e-mail along with the content of the old e-mail) and instead forward as attachment. As an attachment, all of the original e-mail is preserved, including its headers. That does mean that your account #2 will have a bunch of e-mails with attachments that you have to open to see the original e-mail that you had delivered originally to account #1. You could attach more than one original e-mail when forwarding them to the other account but then you'll have to remember which e-mail has which attachment; however, if you have hundreds of e-mails to migrate, you probably don't want to forward attached each one and instead bunch them together in one or a few e-mails to send to your other account. No matter what freeware you have installed on your host, you are still using someone ELSE's e-mail server to send to another e-mail server for your other account. That means the sending operation will end up prepending all the headers for your sending mail server and it those headers that you see in the received e-mails at your other account. You could forward inline but you'll lose almost all the original headers. You'll also have to forward inline each individual original e-mail. If you forward attached then you keep all the original headers but you'll have to open that attachment in your other account, and you'll be able to attach more than one original e-mail to the forwarded e-mail to your other account. The only way to lift one account from one mail server to another mail server would be done at the servers, and you don't have that access. It is highly unlikely that your current unidentified e-mail provider has access to the mail server for your other account. Even if they do, but since you never bothered to identify with WHOM you have your accounts, they probably won't bother or even acknowledge your request if you are using some freebie e-mail accounts because you obviously don't get any support other than the functions they already provided to you via their webmail interface to your accounts. If both accounts are with the same unidentified e-mail provider, you might want to check if they have an export/import feature for the e-mails (and not just the contacts). Unless YippieMove has actual access to the databases or backends of the mail servers through some contracted permission with the e-mail providers they list, they're going to do the same thing you do: forward e-mails from one account to another account. "YippieMove finds and transfers your emails - complete with headers, text and attachments." So they are forwarding as attachment(s) your original e-mails from account #1 to account #2. That means account #2 will have the received e-mails with NEW headers that have attachments for the OLD e-mails. YippieMove claims that the transferred e-mails will be exactly like the originals. If so, that means they have arrangements with the e-mail providers for backend access to their e-mail service to do the transfer, and that means they have to pay these e-mail services for that backend access. That also means you can only transfer from and to accounts with which they have this arrangement. You aren't going to get that ability with any software you install on your host. Forwarding as attachment is the closest you will get, and you already have that ability with your e-mail client. Of course, if the source and destination e-mail servers are under your control then you could transfer accounts. If you don't own/manage the e-mail servers or have the backend access to them like YippieMove then all you can do is resend your original e-mails using someone else's e-mail server and that means adding THEIR headers to your *new* e-mail that you sent through them (containing your old e-mail). If you don't want or need the original headers for your old e-mails, you could forward inline (i.e., send a modified copy that only has a couple of original headers in the body of your new e-mail and the original body of the old e-mail in the body of your new e-mail).
From: VanguardLH on 22 Jul 2010 12:54
You also neglected to mention if you are even using a local e-mail client. If you are using only the webmail interface to your accounts then forwarding (as attachment) is all you have. Using a webmail client means none of the e-mails are local (on your host). They're all up on the server where you hope that your account never gets corrupted, hacked, or a problem results in losing all your e-mails up there. Even if the e-mail provider does backups, you would have to wait for them to restore you account (providing you actually paid for support to make that request) or wait until they fix a mass problem with many accounts which means the restore is from an old backup so you lose recent e-mails. If you are using a local e-mail client, why do you care about migrating e-mails between accounts? All the e-mails from your old account would already be in your local e-mail client's message store. If you use a local e-mail client then you don't care that you are switching to a new account because all your old account's e-mails are already in your local e-mail client. |