From: Tony Evans on
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:

create unmoderated newsgroup uk.comp.sys.mobile

Newsgroup line:
uk.comp.sys.mobile Mobile computing - devices, software & applications


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RATIONALE: uk.comp.sys.mobile

There is increasing convergence between devices such as palmtops,
mobile phones, PDA's, worn computers, music players and other mobile
platforms. �The only major common element between these devices is
that they are truly mobile - they are fit in your pocket sized
computers. �Some of them focus on music, or photographs, or Internet
connectivity, but they all share an increasing amount of functionality
and they are all truly mobile.

This group would provide a forum for discussion of all mobile
computing, without restriction to a particular model or device type.

I have tried to be as inclusive as possible, and to avoid limiting the
discussion to a specific technology to prevent problems in the future
with new technologies.

Optional group names we might consider instead,

uk.comp.mobile
uk.comp.sys.handheld

I've had a first stab at the charter, but I'm fully open to complete
re-workings of it. �My intent (as stated above) was to make this as
inclusive as possible, for all mobile computing platforms.

CHARTER: uk.comp.sys.mobile

This group is for the discussion of mobile computing platforms
(hardware) and the related operating systems and applications that run
upon these platforms. �Mobile in this context is used to describe
devices which are small enough to be carried in a pocket or handbag.

As technology changes rapidly, there is no specific prescription about
what is included, but current examples would be smartphones,
multifunction GPS devices, small tablet computers, PDA's, etc.


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Proponent:
� � � �Tony Evans <tony(at)darkstorm.co.uk>

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From: Tony on
Okay so the initial flurry of comments have subsided, thanks to all
those that have chipped in so far. Here's my intent based on the
feedback I've seen.

On the 15th Feb, I'll submit a new RFD with the following changes,

1. name change to uk.comp.mobile

I like hand-held, but slightly less than mobile, and hand-held suggests
not wearable, and I want to include say, computers-in-glasses which are
certainly mobile but aren't hand-held.

I'm dropping the sys. It was there because this grew out of an existing
sys group, but since this is intended to be a more general group
(covering both the uses of mobile computer, and the computers that are
mobile) I think the sys is out of place.

2. description change to "Mobile computing, devices, software &
applications"

I think the verb rather than the noun better explains the group's reason
for existing.

3. charter change to,

This group is for the discussion of all aspects of mobile computing.
This includes the hardware, operating systems, and applications that run
on mobile computers, as well as the use, development and impact of those
devices.

Mobile in this context is used to describe devices which are small
enough to be carried easily (in the hand, a pocket or handbag for
example) or sometimes worn.

As technology changes rapidly, there is no hard specific definition
about what is included, but current examples would be smartphones,
multifunction GPS devices, small tablet computers, PDA's, etc.

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I think that covers some of the comments, but certainly not all of them.
Sorry if your comment got lost, if you feel the above doesn't reflect
what you wanted or that I'm heading in the wrong direction, we still
have until the 15th before I'll submit the 2nd RFD.

If I was just changing the group name (dropping the sys) I'd probably
get away without a second RFD, but I think the above qualifies as
'substantive' so we'll need a 2nd one.

(Followup set to uk.net.news.config)

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Tony Evans
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